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re: Would you be ok with 21 being the law, with Military exempt.

Posted on 3/3/18 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 9:52 pm to
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Say we raised smoking, voting, guns, (kept alcohol) all to 21 years old. However, all military would be full citizens and could do all the above the minute they joined the military. Would you be ok with that?



So you expect a person to support and defend the Constitution at 18 but not exercise any rights under the Constitution at 18.

Non-starter.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83927 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 9:56 pm to
No. Raising the legal age to buy a rifle will have no noticable effect on gun crime.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 10:53 pm to
No it's a preposterous idea. How about 1st amendment? how about abortion? how about voting?
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 11:34 pm to
They need to create a test for people between the ages of 18-21 that determines a person's maturity level and mental illness level.

All schools should have trained people who carry a weapon or have a weapon under lock and key. Other teachers should at least have taser training and have access to tasers.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 12:01 am to
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I always found it humorous that the military trusted me to operate million dollar war equipment


What million dollar war equipment were u trusted with by chance?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42508 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 5:39 am to
With the immaturity of today's youth, I'd go for 26 - especially for voting right - giving exemptions to military service.

If Congress has said they can hang onto their parent's insurance, they have already been legislated to be less than adults.

Certainly, as a group, they are too immature to have any important duty.

But, I'd be first in line to approve individual exceptions - owners of property, independently self sustaining life style, out of the college environment, honorable military service, demonstrable individual responsibility, etc. There could easily be a process for allowing mature and sane individuals to exercise adult responsibility, including voting.

But in today's environment, age along doesn't mean shite. whimpering snowflakes demanding safe spaces and spending their time in 'diversity studies' at a college they don't pay their own tuition for doesn't cut it. Keep these infants away from guns and voting booths.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 5:52 am to
Things I would like from my Federal Gooberment titled #1:

1.) a standard age that defines child.

2.) a standard age that defines teenager/adolescent.

3.) a standard age that defines adult.

4.) a standard cocktail for all gasoline to be used in the USA.

5.) a standard drivers license.

6.) a standard conceal carry license.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38235 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 6:08 am to

No. 18-20 year olds legally have the right to self preservation as do the rest of us.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 6:56 am to
No. If you want to change the age at which someone becomes an adult to 21, everything goes to 21. Including the age at which you can marry without parental permission, enlist in the military, etc.

Otherwise let's stop with this pretense that came about because the insurance company lobby wanted the drinking age raised to 21.
This post was edited on 3/4/18 at 7:05 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72460 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 7:05 am to
Immature 30 year olds? You’re right. Right here on TD.com. Plenty of them. And younger punks.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 7:07 am to
No we don't give an inch
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47471 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 8:00 am to
Don't forget police, fire, and first responders too
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6819 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 8:55 am to
no, but I would be ok with raising the age to 21 for purchase of an auto weapon. I would also be ok with a ban of Ar-rifles. I own 37 firearms and have absolutely no need for an AR.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73214 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 8:57 am to
Yes even tho it wont do anything

But I think it needs to be raised to 35 with how nutz these millenials are
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12506 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 9:05 am to
I would take it if we add voter ID laws. Liberals would not take that deal because they would lose to many voters .
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5709 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 9:05 am to
I was 17 when I entered the Army and I couldn't buy beer in Louisiana or anywhere else for that matter. Some states were 18 and some were 21. I was allowed to drink beer on post, however. As long as you're a soldier, you can drink alcohol on a military base.
God Bless all you veterans! And welcome home, Vietnam Vets!
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20373 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 9:09 am to
I've always felt it was bullshite you could get killed in a far-off land but cannot have a beer when home. If you're old enough to die in combat, you're old enough to drink and own firearms IMO.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24625 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 9:24 am to
How about we just ban murder instead...
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76435 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Would you be ok with 21 being the law, with Military exempt.
Why not 35?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63435 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 9:29 am to
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k, if you're old enough to be trusted with a $9 million tank, then you should be able to drink and buy a gun.



I guess that's analogous if you're ordered to drive the tank from New Orleans to Lafayette.
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