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re: Workers own the means of production. How would this work?

Posted on 3/10/21 at 7:25 am to
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40798 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 7:25 am to
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Workers own the means of production. How would this work?



Like unions but even worse. That's how it would work.
Posted by Cossatotjoe
Member since Oct 2020
938 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 7:26 am to
It means you set up these localize committees made up of representatives elected by workers who run the industries in the area. They set production quotas, make management decisions and so on and so forth. You could call those committees something like...I don’t know...soviets. These “soviets” would report to regional committees and ultimately to a national committee we could call something like...I don’t know...the politburo.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19496 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 7:29 am to
Isn't the idea that they would have worker soviets who elected leaders to make some decisions while the soviets in general would make others? It would never work on a widescale of course but I think that is what they mean.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8939 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 7:33 am to
It's obviously a dumba** philosophy, but when the people you are selling it to are dumba**es, it sort of sells itself.

This is the fallout of an uneducated, dumba** population. People immediately gravitate to shite like this. And elites wait in the shadows ready to benefit.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69203 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 7:40 am to
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There are really a lot of companies that operate this way, and some of them are very successful. Fender music company was/is owned by employees and I know of several big trucking companies that are in this kind of partnership. I don't know exactly how it works, but the employees are still just mostly employees, but are paid with some stock?





The idea is everyone would share the profit. No one person making more than the other. But we know our fellow citizens. Not everyone puts in equal work. So no, it would never work.



Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 7:47 am to
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Look at Ben and Jerry’s, they pay their employees well, they care about the environment, not everything is about profit


Ben and Jerry’s is the #1 ice cream business. Last year they made over $800 million in sales. Stop being fooled, all successful businesses are 100% about profit
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34877 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 7:53 am to
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Look at Ben and Jerry’s, they pay their employees well, they care about the environment, not everything is about profit.


So why aren’t they giving their ice cream away?

Oh yes...that’s right...capitalism.

Ben and Jerry’s doesn’t exist under communism / socialism.

Now before you try to tell me about Sweden being “socialist,” allow me to enlighten you.

Sweden is not a socialist success



Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8939 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 7:59 am to
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Look at Ben and Jerry’s, they pay their employees well, they care about the environment, not everything is about profit. Ben and jerry are probably rich but not “more money than someone could spend in 100 lifetimes” rich.


I can more than guarantee B&J didn't get into the position they are without being cut throat business guys. They put on a nice show, and that makes Karen happy when she pays $7.99 for a pint of ice cream at the store, but those guys love capitalism whether they admit it or not.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12337 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 8:05 am to
Wal-Mart does have a stock sharing program with their employees.

Which is smart. If you want employees to care about the stock price then give them some.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56638 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 8:20 am to
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“that wasn’t socialism, what the Nordic countries are doing is socialism”.

And they'd be wrong.

Danish PM in US: Denmark is not socialist
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91158 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 8:22 am to
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How would a bunch of plant haws possibly agree on ideas to keep a business moving forward without leadership?


Meet at sonic
Bracket filled with employee names and their idea
Winner of the whole fight bracket gets his idea implemented
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