re: Women should not have the right to vote

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The real way to fix this is to have a voting license that you have to buy. Say a one time fee of $1500. You could blame it on voting machines and pill workers being expensive 

No welfare leech could ever scrape together $1500 and most of the people that shouldn't vote wouldn't bother

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You mean besides the fact that its unconstitutional to have a poll tax?

There is some grade A stupid in this thread and I would bet the majority of the people saying women shouldn't vote wouldn't have the balls to say that to a real woman.

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real woman.

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Transphobic.

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The broad eligibility requirements are a fair and equitable arrangement as they exist today.

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Ignoring the fact that I don't believe in "fair" or "equitable," the outcome of women's suffrage has been anything but fair and equitable to society as a whole, especially children.

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Women are tax paying citizens who have a say in the governance of the county, city and state they fund. /end of thread

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Tax paying citizens who likely get back more than they pay in.

Shenanigans!!!
(But...I'm open to ending war on drugs and reforming criminal justice,too)

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Do you think there are more men or women in prison?

Which gender has the lock on not paying taxes and being incarcerated and absorbing tax dollars?

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I propose that the prison population wouldn't be exponentially smaller had women never had the right to vote in this country.

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You answer my question and I'll answer yours.

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I'm not the idiot walking down a dumb logical path by suggesting only property owners can vote on property taxes. Thats your hill to fight on. So how should woman's health issues be dealt with?

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You're wrong again. Welfare. The Great Society. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

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Also the period of slavery, Jim Crow. Which you seem to lump into the "good years."

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That's it. You lose. I've asked you 4 times to justify a woman's right to vote. You can't. It's because there is no justification that I won't blow to hell with so many logical lines you'll have a conniption.

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They are of an acceptable voting age, subject to the laws affecting them, the leaders governing them, and if they do not have a criminal record and have citizen status, than they have legal and moral standing to have an equitable share in that process. Which I do not have issue with, you do. The onus continues to be on you to make a convincing case for why they should not maintain that right and that legal standing should be changed.

You people are insane. Taxpaying, property owning women should absolutely have the right to vote and it's insane that a lot of you think otherwise.

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i made the case. So did Hemp Head. You have refused to reply to either one of us outside of calling me a Nazi. So now the onus is on you to tell me why I'm wrong. Other than "I'm good with current arrangement." Why are you okay with universal suffrage? What makes it better than restricted suffrage. Other than it being "fair" because that's a stupid reason to do anything

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You want to dictate who can vote based solely on allegiance to ideology, you seek a fascist arrangement, or one that can not be achieved without something resembling such, there is nothing more that needs to be said on that. If it offends you, don't advocate fascist ideologies.

You didn't make a case, you expressed a desire and why you want that desire, that is not making a case, that is promoting an action to achieve ideological ideals. That is not an argument for system superiority.

The broad universal suffrage systems of the world far outpace in economic, personal freedom, and general welfare benefits for its citizens compared to any other system in the historical record.

The irony in your fascist proposals is that in the name of freedom from government you want to enforce targeted controls on the citizenry to achieve it.