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re: Within the next decade china will have a larger military than the US

Posted on 12/22/19 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 3:27 pm to
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Within the next decade china will have a larger military than the US

There may be a lot more of them, but they're really small. The average size runs about 3-4 feet.
Posted by Tigers0891
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 4:44 pm to
Their army is malnourished and poorly trained to go with poor morale. They can’t project globally in a hot war. Worst they can do is scorched earth their homeland and stop all production and try to cripple the west with us not getting enough whatever fidget spinner of the day is being pumped in left and right. Walmart might go under. China is a joke.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 4:49 pm to
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I have a hard time believing there ships are a threat to our Navy.
Based on recent events I’d say our own ships are the biggest threat to our Navy.

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I'm aware of their carriers but they are no match for the Nimitz class right? Does the pace of building really matter?

Well I’m of the school of thought that aircraft carriers are obsolete and we just don’t know it yet. They’re more of a symbol of national might than anything else. They’re so expensive and huge that losing one in battle is almost inconceivable yet they are a very inviting target. A target that is becoming increasingly vulnerable to high speed cruise and ballistic missiles.

If having carriers is an absolute must then we should have smaller, cheaper ones and more of them. And their mission should be focused on anti-surface/anti-submarine/sea-control rather than striking targets inland. We already have long range bombers and cruise missiles that are more than capable of taking that role from carrier based aviation.
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Hogbit
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 4:50 pm to
Some folks need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Arrogance will get us curb stomped.
Posted by ericberryistheman
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 4:52 pm to
It won’t matter if we are bankrupt.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 4:53 pm to
So?

They're just cannon fodder. Hell, the PLA doesn't even issue body armor to their troops.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 4:55 pm to
Their army is irrelevant imo. No one is fighting a land war with China. Their Navy and Air/Missile forces are what we need to be concerned about.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:01 pm to
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Their Navy and Air/Missile forces are what we need to be concerned about.


Yeah, their little island building campaign has built a pretty effective missile defense/air defense network
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:01 pm to
They’ve also laid underwater listening devices to track our ships and subs. How effective it is I have no idea but it’s there.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:04 pm to
They certainly can't rely on their Soviet refurb carrier
Posted by Hogbit
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:04 pm to
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geauxxxtigers23

Is a wise man
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:07 pm to
Which is cheaper, the ship or the missile?

For those old enough to remember the Exocet and the Sheffield might be a clue.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:31 pm to
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For those old enough to remember the Exocet and the Sheffield might be a clue.


Yeah, the Argentinean navy used the Exocet pretty effectively
Posted by Lakeboy7
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 6:17 pm to
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Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 6:25 pm to
That was a test bed, and a training tool.
Posted by UCFACTS4LIFE
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 6:30 pm to
When China develops their own long range hypersonic antiship missle watch out its game on
Posted by Hogbit
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 6:31 pm to
China has stealth aircraft and anti- ship missiles too. Russian designed anti-ship missiles.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 7:06 pm to
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China has stealth aircraft and anti- ship missiles too

I've heard their stealth aircraft are complete dogshit.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 7:10 pm to
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Larger does not equal better.


No, but brute force works when you’re defending your borders and coastal areas.

Projecting strength - that’s tough to do. The Chinese are still way behind there. And numbers are only a part of that equation.
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 7:11 pm
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 7:11 pm to
Probably not as nice as ours, but they will have way more than we do.
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