re: Within the next decade china will have a larger military than the US

He must be more in the know than we are.

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you're making my point for me. the carriers aren't just sitting ducks. they have a TON of support.

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No. My point is that the carriers suck up a lot of assets that would be better used in a different role.

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the navy wouldn't be doing that for no reason.

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I'll just disagree here. The Navy will never willingly give up carriers not because they are neccessary, but because the leadership of the Navy grew up with them. They're emotionally attached and can't wrap their minds around something different.

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you seem to be suggesting the us doesn't have that ALSO, because they do.

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Lol no man. I am literally saying the opposite. We do have alternatives to carriers. Better alternatives that are cheaper and more survivable.

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besides, this is all current gen warfare. the us is leading the way in next gen warfare. all this talk of carriers, subs, etc is becoming more obsolete by the day.

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Sure, and we should continue to invest in those future technologies. But cyber and space warfare do not protect sea lanes or control territory. You still gotta blow shite up to do that.

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absolutely not true. there are plenty of military papers on why they're still beneficial

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Written by career naval aviators and defense contractors that want to sell 13B dollar carriers.

Yep. I thought about that.
What does he think the role the carrier and the airwing play?

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I don't really understand how the US or China withstands a serious conflict that threatens the existence of a major nuclear power. Mutually assured destruction applies to China , Russia and the US.

India and Pakistan is a great example on a smaller scale (both nuclear powers). If one country were to try and wipe out the other country, both countries' populations are screwed. How much does military might really matter in that case, unless you are able to intercept all nuclear threats? - Which may be impossible with today's ICBM technology.

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So I think the only plausible scenario that the use of nuclear weapons stays out of it is a conflict with China over the East and South China Seas. Both countries will probably be willing to duke it out conventionally on the high seas and see where the chips fall rather than risk destroying their entire populations with unlimited nuclear warfare.

Of course if it does go nuclear, this entire conversation is moot as you say.

We better hit a homerun with our new FFG project

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You believe Trump when he says the military was running out of bullets under Obama.

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You miss out on a lot of real news at the end of Obama admin and the beginning of Trump. How many vehicles sat in the shop off line because of lack of parts? What happened to the most senior core of officers across all branches. Are you familiar with Rules of Engagement? If not look at the effectiveness of our forces after Trump got into office. You lose every argument in above mentioned topics.

Let me guess: you never served.

China is only worried about their part of the world we have so many commitments worldwide.

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better hit a homerun with ffgx program

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Better believe it.

They could start by building warships that actually have weapons on board.

Bigger doesn't always mean better.

It ain't the size of the boat, it's the motion of the ocean

China has no way to rapidly move their forces in large #'s.