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Will we look like fools if the administration keeps spouting off about Ukraine
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:55 am
and the Russians send troops to crush the rebellion? I can see this escalating to the point that Putin will send troops if the rebels start to win. If he does this will it make us look like fools as we obviously will not intervene? I think we should sit this one out and leave it alone but I have been wrong before. What are your thoughts?
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:59 am to DanTiger
I don't think anybody takes Obama's red lines too seriously much less Putin.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 11:00 am
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:01 am to DanTiger
Neither Obama or Kerry seem to realize that when you take a position on the international stage, if you are not willing to back up those words, the people will not take you seriously anymore.
Putin has seen Obama and Kerry in action relative to Syria and knows that their words ring hollow.
I honestly don't think Russia gives a rip what the US says anymore.
Bottom line, when we have not intention of taking action (which is good in this case and in the case of Syria), then we need not comment IMO.
Putin has seen Obama and Kerry in action relative to Syria and knows that their words ring hollow.
I honestly don't think Russia gives a rip what the US says anymore.
Bottom line, when we have not intention of taking action (which is good in this case and in the case of Syria), then we need not comment IMO.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:03 am to DanTiger
What has the administration said about The Ukraine? From what I've heard, they've been pretty silent on the issue.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:07 am to DanTiger
Who cares about Ukraine? Our Secretary of State has more important matters on his plate. The future of mankind requires his 100% focus on global warming.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:09 am to kingbob
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What has the administration said about The Ukraine? From what I've heard, they've been pretty silent on the issue.
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Meanwhile, European and U.S. leaders threatened quick sanctions against the Ukrainian government over what French President Francois Hollande called "unspeakable, unacceptable, intolerable acts."
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"President Yanokovich has the opportunity to make a choice, a choice between protecting the people that he serves -- all of the people -- and the choice for compromise and dialogue versus violence and mayhem," Kerry said during a visit to Paris. "We believe the choice is clear and we are talking about the possibility of sanctions or other steps with our friends and Europe and elsewhere in order to create the environment for compromise."
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U.S. President Barack Obama also was expected to address the issue later Wednesday while on a trip to Mexico, National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes told reporters aboard Air Force One. He said a "full toolkit" is available to the United States to respond to the Ukrainian violence, including sanctions.
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U.S. officials have already revoked the visas for Ukrainian government officials linked to the violence against protesters, senior U.S. administration officials told CNN.
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:10 am to Poodlebrain
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The future of mankind requires his 100% focus on global warming.
You mean "climate change" AKA "the biggest, most threateningest, manbearpiggingest weapon of mass destruction of all-time ... it's a scientific fact, you can look it up" ?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:17 am to DanTiger
Depends on your definition of intervention. If only words are used by the WH, then let Obama and Kerry say what they want. Putin won't be paying attention to those two anyway. If any kind of economic sanctions are suggested by the WH then I say - mind your own damn business.
I don't make a point of walking over to the neighbor's house to intervene when they are arguing. I figure they must have a good reason to raise the decibel level. Let them hash it out.
I don't make a point of walking over to the neighbor's house to intervene when they are arguing. I figure they must have a good reason to raise the decibel level. Let them hash it out.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:17 am to DanTiger
He is going to piss off Putin with intrusion into his sphere of influence if the Ukraine gets too deep. Syria was a joke to both sides which never stood a chance o success for the US in truth. the only thing achieved was the "peace talks" and Assad is not going to do a single thing differently from what he has been doing for three years, Russian ships will continue to deliver arms to Syria and getting under Bozos skin
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:24 am to DanTiger
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:29 am to LSURussian
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LSURussian
First picture should have a goalpost in front of Obama for double emphasis.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:31 am to DanTiger
We look like fools for electing the administration.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:33 am to hawkster
Obama will sacrifice the people of Ukraine. Baltics next?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:50 am to DanTiger
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What are your thoughts?
Gee, it sounds an awful lot like this:
Vice President Dick Cheney said on 10 August, "Russian aggression must not go unanswered, and its continuation would have serious consequences for its relations with the United States, as well as the broader international community."
Do we still look like fools for that statement?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:04 pm to DanTiger
You will know how feckless this administration truly is if the Russians think they can send armed forces into a sovereign European nation to "assist" Ukrainian security/police forces in restoring order. There is no Soviet Union and this is not 1948, 1956, or 1968. Other than that, what does any of this have to do with The Kardashians or American Idol?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:04 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Vice President Dick Cheney said on 10 August, "Russian aggression must not go unanswered, and its continuation would have serious consequences for its relations with the United States, as well as the broader international community."
And this is relevant how?
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:05 pm to DanTiger
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I think we should sit this one out and leave it alone but I have been wrong before. What are your thoughts?
It's not our business. When the chemical weapons and/or other methods of killing start being reported, it still is none of our business. And if or when it's reported that the WMDs from Iraq ended up there, it is still none of our business.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:07 pm to DanTiger
Putin fears the US Hockey Team more than he does Barack Obama.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:10 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Vice President Dick Cheney said on 10 August, "Russian aggression must not go unanswered, and its continuation would have serious consequences for its relations with the United States, as well as the broader international community."
More of a policy statement and not a direct threat.
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Do we still look like fools for that statement?
Different administration. Policies and ogals change.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:23 pm to beachdude
quote:Here is how it will happen....
if the Russians think they can send armed forces into a sovereign European nation to "assist" Ukrainian security/police forces in restoring order.
The President of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, who is ethnic Russian from eastern Ukraine, will officially request Russian assistance in preventing a coup d'tat from overthrowing the legally elected government of Ukraine.
Claiming their 'assistance' is only temporary to prevent loss of life and to stop the violence, Russian troops will move in, backed by tanks and helicopters, first in the Crimea, which used to be Russian soil and where the Russian navy is based even today because of a treaty Yanukovych signed with Russia when he was first elected Pres of Ukraine, and then into eastern Ukraine which is heavily ethnic Russian populated.
The Russian troops will receive a heroes welcome from the ethnic Russians living in eastern Ukraine and the TV news will be filled with photographs and videos of those ethnic Russian Ukrainian citizens presenting flowers to their Russian protectors.
Seeing no response from the west other than a few strongly worded news releases, Russian troops will then move into Kiev and finally into western Ukraine. Western Ukraine has very few ethnic Russians being almost exclusively populated by ethnic Ukrainians and Poles.
All dissidents will be arrested and locked up and probably never heard from again.
The Russian assimilation of Ukraine back into a Russian province will be complete.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 3:12 pm
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