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Wikileaks Email claims Biden offered Medvedev 2nd Term as Russia's President

Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:57 pm
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:57 pm
This should be investigated. Can you offer something which you don't control?


Re: INSIGHT -RUSSIA/US - Biden visit, the tandem & foreign policy


They did, but they genuinly believe that they have Medvedev in their
pocket and that there is a break in the Kremlin.

On 3/7/11 9:08 PM, scott stewart wrote:

Like they never heard of using the good cop/bad cop approach.....

That is incredible, Marko. Blows my mind that it never occurred to them.
The Russians love that.

On 3/7/11 1:31 PM, Marko Papic wrote:

It is difficult to explain. But it is as if each of the European
countries thinks there is room to negotiate with Medvedev, and none with
Putin. This is about dealing with a Russia who can at least talk.

Yeah, the Secretary General NATO for Strategic Planning -- a German --
laid out this dynamic. He said that Berlin was hopeful that Medvedev
"wins out". I told him that our assessment is that the tension between
Putin and Medvedev is to an extent "manufactured". He looked at me like
"holy shite, we did not think of that" sort of way.

This was also echoed by the German Ambassador to the U.S. when I met him
in Austin.

On 3/7/11 7:40 PM, Michael Wilson wrote:



CODE: RU185
PUBLICATION: yes
ATTRIBUTION: STRATFOR sources in Moscow
SOURCE DESCRIPTION: Kremlin linked Russian Foreign Policy thinktanker
SOURCE RELIABILITY: C
ITEM CREDIBILITY: 3
DISTRIBUTION: Analysts
HANDLER: Lauren



Biden has an offer for the tandem. Biden is set on Medvedev remaining
president. Obama gets along with him personally and is not intimidated
by him. There is a real issue when Obama and Putin are together in that
Obama does not act like the US President. It is a personality thing,
which is important to both sides.




On the other hand, the US is interested in Medvedev remaining president
also because it shifts the dynamics of the personalities in other
regions as well. Other leaders react very differently to Medvedev versus
Putin. Putin has close personal relationships with Merkel, Sarkozy,
Berlusconi and even Tusk. Each of these countries fall into line with
Moscow and are more hesitant with Washington if Putin has laid down
edicts. They do not really do this with Medvedev as strongly. It is
difficult to explain. But it is as if each of the European countries
thinks there is room to negotiate with Medvedev, and none with Putin.
This is about dealing with a Russia who can at least talk.



On the other hand, the US does like Putin's policy on China, versus
Medvedev's. Medvedev takes a soft line on China, giving Beijing room to
leverage its relationship with Moscow against Washington. Putin takes a
very hard line against China, believing it to be a great concern for a
future hostile relationship. Having the latter would benefit the US in
the long run, so Washington and Moscow can collaborate on how to shift
global pressure and perception of China.



So Biden is traveling with "an offer". Medvedev will have a 2nd term as
president and Putin will be offered a prestigious international position
related to either the UNSC or NATO. The latter would be a newly created
position-and that is all the details we have thus far on it.


LINK
Of course the US doesn't want anyone to know that it is trying to mold
the Russian elections. So that is why McFaul has been tripping all over
himself this weekend to ensure that it is know the US does not have the
power to do so.



--

Lauren Goodrich
Senior Eurasia Analyst
STRATFOR
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80228 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:00 pm to
Everything Biden does with Russia is true. Everything Trump does with Russia is false.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164128 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

There is a real issue when Obama and Putin are together in that Obama does not act like the US President. It is a personality thing, which is important to both sides.

holy shite this can't be real

every time the dems claim the republicans do something it's actually them projecting and doing it themselves.. like "Trump bowing to Putin"
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 10:01 pm
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22939 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:02 pm to
I mean frick evidence right. Theres evidence of one side doing it. Zero on the other. Just speculation.


But other than that...

Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

Everything Biden does with Russia is true. Everything Trump does with Russia is false.


Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80228 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

evidence


that’s rich
Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli
Member since Jun 2020
1622 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Obama gets along with him personally and is not intimidated by him.


Is that part of an actual email or your thoughts?I already suspected Putin intimidated that limp dick pussy Obama but seeing it in print would be proof positive.
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 10:05 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45202 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22939 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

Biden got rich


FIFY
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 10:06 pm
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85798 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

Everything Trump does with Russia is false.


Name one thing
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

Is that part of an actual email or your thoughts?


Thats the email. Stratfor is a think tank type consulting firm.

Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli
Member since Jun 2020
1622 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:09 pm to
Holee shite...what a cuck!
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:22 pm to
On a side note, there are also emails in Wikileaks between this Lauren Goodrich and Igor Danchenko. Who TF is Igor Danchenko you ask?

He was Christopher Steele's (Steele Dossier: Trump Russia Pee Pee Tapes that have since been proven false) "Russian Source". Although he lived in the US and worked for The Atlantic Council.

Here's an email where Lauren and Igor make plans to have drinks.

LINK
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66926 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Everything Biden does with Russia is true. Everything Trump does with Russia is false.



C'mon dogg
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

There is a real issue when Obama and Putin are together in that Obama does not act like the US President. It is a personality thing,


What does this mean? Obama was scared of Putin and acted like it?
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39189 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:32 pm to
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Of course the US doesn't want anyone to know that it is trying to mold the Russian elections.

Obama was already setting up a motive for the supposed Russian interference. That's some 32D chess of his own.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

that’s rich


His name was Seth Rich
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

What does this mean? Obama was scared of Putin and acted like it?


It seems so. Maybe being an empty suit doesn't prepare one to be Presidential when needed.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

That's some 32D chess of his own.


Obama wasn't setting up shite. His puppet masters were attempting to, but it doesn't seem to have worked out to well for them in hindsight.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20376 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:48 pm to
It sounds like Obama pissed his pants in fear when in the presence of Putin.
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