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Why would NO and Moreno pick a fight with Murrill and state of La. over clerk issue

Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:20 pm
Posted by tigerdude12
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:20 pm
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Seems like the state is helping New Orleans with financing , national guard etc and would go along In consolidating the civil and criminal clerks. I like Moreno but this is a bad decision.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:24 pm to
LINK - no paywall

I look forward to 4cubbies’ insight on this.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:33 pm to
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like Moreno but this is a bad decision.


I think a lot of folks just dislike Cantrell more than they genuinely like Moreno.

I suspect this will become apparent as time passes.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:11 pm to
Cantrell was term limited.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:15 pm to
It’s really the other way. The state is looking to do away with a position that has long existed. It’s probably not a bad idea to reduce the number of judges and the separate criminal clerk of court, but it’s the state that is seeking change the status quo.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:20 pm to
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I look forward to 4cubbies’ insight on this.

I’m sure you can anticipate my insight. This administration doesn’t respect local democratic governance.

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If the council “attempts to install an ‘interim clerk’ and additionally to call an illegal election, I will certainly be required to act,” pursuant to state law, “to prevent the council and its interim appointee from interfering with the lawful officeholder’s exercise of her duties.”


I wonder what would make an election illegal. I’m not familiar with all the statutes around holding an election or the legislature’s ability to retroactively nullify an election and appoint someone else to assume the duties of the office they nullified.

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Murrill, though, called the council’s action “legally misguided.” She pointed to the portion of Act 15 that transfers all powers from the clerk of criminal court to the Orleans Parish civil district court clerk, “who shall thereafter be referred to as the clerk of court for the parish of Orleans,” the law reads.

“The Legislature did not create a new office for which there is no incumbent,” Murrill wrote to the council. Instead, she said, the law grants the civil clerk - Napoleon - the combined seat.


Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12691 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:26 pm to
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Cantrell was term limited.


And her replacement is going to be held to incredibly low standards for the first year or two…. But eventually people will measure Moreno against good mayors instead of against Cantrell
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:57 pm to
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I wonder what would make an election illegal


Does the City Council calling an election when it doesn’t have that authority not strike you as illegal? The Clerk of Court position is created by state law, not a city ordinance.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 9:59 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:11 pm to
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Does the City Council calling an election when it doesn’t have that authority not strike you as illegal?


I’m honestly not familiar with all the local and state statutes around elections.

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The Clerk of Court position is created by state law, not a city ordinance.


Why does any city have an election for this position? Why doesn’t the state apppint every clerk?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61407 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:22 pm to
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And her replacement is going to be held to incredibly low standards for the first year or two…. But eventually people will measure Moreno against good mayors instead of against Cantrell


Just FYI, I’ve been critical of Moreno for years. I’m not impressed by her at all. I wanted Arthur Hunter for mayor.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8057 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:34 pm to
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I’m sure you can anticipate my insight. This administration doesn’t respect local democratic governance.


Local democratic governance are a bunch of losers
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:54 pm to
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I’m honestly not familiar with all the local and state statutes around elections.


This should have been done back in 2005 when Orleans Parish population dropped below the mandatory minimum requirement to have two different clerks. Its still below the mandatory population so the state is doubling down and forcing the issue.
Posted by Onyx Aggie
Foothills of the Smokies
Member since Sep 2012
2952 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:57 pm to
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This administration doesn’t respect local democratic governance.

I've seen you make similar statements in other threads on this topic. I find it interesting that you, and others of a similar political persuasion, have suddenly become advocates for local, bottom up style democracy rather than the top down style the left is known for.

Did you have this same passion when SCOTUS created a "right" out of whole cloth with its Roe v Wade decision, ignoring the state positions? Did you celebrate when the states later regained control via Dobbs?

Do you believe decisions should always be controlled at the lowest level possible, or just when it aligns with your preferred outcome?
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26774 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:08 am to
Moreno is just pandering. She endorsed the guy who lost.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61407 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:57 am to
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I've seen you make similar statements in other threads on this topic. I find it interesting that you, and others of a similar political persuasion, have suddenly become advocates for local, bottom up style democracy rather than the top down style the left is known for.


“Suddenly”? I can only speak for myself. I’ve always been a proponent of local democratic governance. I don’t know what tribal politics has to do with me or anything I support.

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Did you have this same passion when SCOTUS created a "right" out of whole cloth with its Roe v Wade decision,

Yes. I’ve always been critical of Roe.

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Do you believe decisions should always be controlled at the lowest level possible, or just when it aligns with your preferred outcome?
my preferred outcome is local democratic governance.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6330 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:47 am to
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status quo


Yeah, NO's status. Only city with 2 in state for sure....its a scam of costing the city double
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7877 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 1:02 pm to
“Only city with 2 in state for sure....its a scam of costing the city double”

Like I said, it’s probably not a bad idea, but it’s a state initiative to do away with having two positions.
Posted by WickedTiger
Member since Apr 2026
83 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 1:06 pm to
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But eventually people will measure Moreno against good mayors instead of against Cantrell


When, EXACTLY, did New Orleans have a good mayor?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37328 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 1:18 pm to
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This administration doesn’t respect local democratic governance.

There is zero reason for Orleans to have a completely separate and redundant clerk for the criminal docket. Waste of money, so it’s gone.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37328 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 1:20 pm to
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Why does any city have an election for this position? Why doesn’t the state apppint every clerk?

It’s a Parish office, and they are elected in all 64 parishes.

New Orleans isn’t special and doesn’t require two Clerk’s offices. It’s grift.
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