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re: Why was the decision made to vax our way out of this pandemic?

Posted on 2/16/22 at 11:53 am to
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 11:53 am to
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Was Trump part of the push for the vaccine or not?


Of course he was. He still is. "Get the vaccine. It's good."

Trumpkins just can't wrap their head around Trump being partially to blame for the heavy vaccine push. He was a major player.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1732 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 11:56 am to
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there needs to be a 9/11 commissioner


Yeah, cause that commission was so successful. As was the Warren Commission. As was the HUAC.

Commissions are cover-ups, not truth revealers. Also, what a waste of cash.
Posted by Origins of Asymmetry
Member since Feb 2022
724 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 11:57 am to
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He pushed for a vaccine to be ready and available.



Thread title:
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Why was the decision made to vax our way out of this pandemic?


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He didn't push for 300 million people to be forced to get a shot every six months

300 million people are being forced to get a shot every 6 months? Mandates are stupid. Your comments here are also stupid.

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While simultaneously banning any cheap proven therapeutics that would help in 90% of cases.

That isn't really an executive branch decision and this happened while he was in office.
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See the difference?


I see you're making up a bunch of hyperbole instead of acting like an adult.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107513 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 11:59 am to
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Trumpkins just can't wrap their head around Trump being partially to blame for the heavy vaccine push. He was a major player.



Who were the people against this push?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51392 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 2:07 pm to
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Why was the decision made to vax our way out of this pandemic?


Ask Trump. He was in charge.




Trump was not in charge when Biden made an authoritarian decision to invoke a vaccine mandate. Trump was trying to push therapeutics but was immediately crushed by the Gaslight Media, Big Pharma and the entrenched medical establishment….remember HCQ? Monoclonal antibodies? Essential vitamins? Yeah, that was Trump. You knew this and simply forgot. I’m glad I was here to set you straight.
Posted by RTea
Member since Jan 2022
180 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 2:13 pm to
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Why was the decision made to vax our way out of this pandemic?



Ask Trump. He was in charge.


Do you drink a lot? Are you some kind of lying low life leftist? Fauci was in charge. Is your mental process so fouled up that you can't remember Trump recommending therapeutics such as Hydroxychloroquine? Or the Occam's razor explanation are you just stupid?
Posted by RTea
Member since Jan 2022
180 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 2:20 pm to
The important part being he is against forced vaccinations and masking. So what if his personal opinion is to get vaccinated. And why aren't you pissed about the many real problems Biden is causing with the mandates, his idiotic immigration non policy and his policies causing very high inflation?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51392 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:55 pm to
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theory, a vaccine that would make a person who go it immune to Covid, and prevent that person from spreading Covid, sounded wonderful at the time.

That is what the vaccine was sold to do. Now we know the truth. But they knew the truth all along. Big pharma knew that the vaccine that they got paid billions to develop and produce would not work as they sold it to do, but they kept selling that narrative to everyone.

People wanted so badly to believe that there might be an end to what was happening. I wanted an end to the freaking lock downs, the masking, and hopefully start taking back the power from the government. I understand how people felt and I feel foolish for believing the lie, but unlike most libs, it didn't take me long to realize that we were being lied to.


I knew in the spring of 2021 the Covid19 vaccines were not going to end the pandemic…..the reports of breakthrough cases started in March of 2021. It only got worse and by late summer/early fall of 2021 the hope of ending a pandemic with a leaky vaccine was kaput. What’s crazy is the authoritarian regime ramped up the misinformation/disinformation media blitz claiming if everyone would take the shot the pandemic would be over all the while knowing it was a lie. Then came the vaccine mandate madness that has costs tens of thousands of Americans their jobs….maybe more.
Posted by BamaMamaof2
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
2633 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:50 am to
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I knew in the spring of 2021 the Covid19 vaccines were not going to end the pandemic…..the reports of breakthrough cases started in March of 2021. It only got worse and by late summer/early fall of 2021 the hope of ending a pandemic with a leaky vaccine was kaput. What’s crazy is the authoritarian regime ramped up the misinformation/disinformation media blitz claiming if everyone would take the shot the pandemic would be over all the while knowing it was a lie. Then came the vaccine mandate madness that has costs tens of thousands of Americans their jobs….maybe more.


I got the vaccine in early February because my husband worked in the medical field. I felt so lucky at the time that I could get it so early.

Like you, I started to realize in the spring, late spring for me, that this "miracle" shot was not the answer. The media kept saying the spread was due to people not getting the vaccine, but by then I and many others knew better and knew this would nothing but a big money grab for big pharma and the governments way of control the population.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108057 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:55 am to
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If Trump is reelected and R's take the House there needs to be a 9/11 commission on the origins of COVID19 and who benefited both politically and monetarily


No.

ON DAY ONE

First, fire EVERYONE.

Second, freeze federal funding/payments to any school, university, lab or company that played any role in this fiasco.

Third, direct AG to appoint a special counsel to look into the matter.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
13910 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:57 am to
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unvaxxed have to wear a cloth mask under an N95


What's the purpose of this? Cloth under a N95 renders the N95 useless. That's so fricking stupid. What a-hole came up with that rule?

For the N95 to work as designed, you need a tight seal on the face. That's why every hospital employee involved in pt care gets fit-tested when hired.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 6:59 am
Posted by DotBling
Member since Oct 2019
3166 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:58 am to
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Ask Trump. He was in charge.


When did President Trump mandate a vaccine? Please be specific.
Posted by BaldEagleHey
Member since May 2020
492 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:03 am to
For me, seeing Trump's interview with Candace Owens a month ago convinced me that Trump cares more about his legacy (Trump cares more about Trump) than he does doing what's best.

In 1/2022 after everyone has seen the failure of the the jabs, Trump is still encouraging everyone to get it and says it will keep you from getting covid and spreading it.

I love what Trump did for us 2017-2020 but it is time for him to move on.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16518 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:51 am to
Pfizer
Posted by DotBling
Member since Oct 2019
3166 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:01 am to
Who was one of the first to mention HCQ? Hint: It rhymes with TRUMP.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 8:02 am
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:11 am to
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If Trump is reelected and R's take the House


Trump wasn’t a republican. He was a lifelong democrat and member of the elite liberal bubble.

He saw it for what it was and tried to change things but he couldn’t do it on his own. The swamp he kept trying to expose us to drowned him.

The DNC has moved so far left that it’s unrecognizable and the RNC has shifted so far from its values that it’s nothing more than a facade.

The truth is “republicans” as we all understand the party don’t exist anymore.

Republicans of 2020 are the democrats of 1999 and Democrats of 2020 are socialist authoritarians.

Centrist Americans have absolutely no voice and no representation at the federal level.

As much as we make fun of the idiot democrats who continue to pull the lever for the DNC even after seeing the problems they vote for we are equally as ignorant pulling the lever for these RINO assclowns.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 8:13 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87580 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:16 am to
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Was Trump part of the push for the vaccine or not?


Wow how very detailed of an answer
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Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21579 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:31 am to
$$$$$$$$$$
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43850 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:33 am to
Huh? Just cause Trump ushered in the vaccine doesn’t mean he would have blocked all other potential treatments. He was famously slammed for fostering HCQ, Regeneron, etc... it was the democrats who banned ALL debate around alternative treatments.
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
Member since Mar 2010
4115 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:37 am to
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Why was the decision made to vax our way out of this pandemic?



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They suppressed the use of known therapeutics to justify the EUA.

They needed the EUA to buy time to deploy the vax.

They needed to buy time to relax elections laws.

They relaxed election laws to effect regime change in America.


They engineered the pandemic

It is important to differentiate "the pandemic" from "the virus". There is much evidence the virus had been in circulation largely unknown for quite some time before "the pandemic". The pandemic was an opportunity realized by global elites to kill a few birds with one stone.
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