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Why the right always loses

Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:03 am
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8864 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:03 am
The reason the right loses and has been getting getting asses kicked by the left for decades, is they don't know how to argue things on the premise, usually because they are scared to do it.

Take the subject of grooming for example. While yes, in the instances where some kid is being exposed directly to perverted things like drag shows and pride events , I think we can all agree that is wrong. But what is the real issue? It's that kids are being taught that homosexual relationships are normal and just as good and healthy as heterosexual nuclear families. Is anyone on the right really pushing back on this?

If they aren't pushing back on the homosexual agenda, then why shouldn't the left indoctrinate kids that these relationships are normal? As long as they can do it in a clean way.

I could make this same example about a number of other issues.

Such as guns, the premise of our argument is we need guns to kill tyrants. Yet, when was the last time someone on the right actually articulated this? It's usually about self defense or hunting. If that's the case, then why should they take our guns away, if they are just something as arbitrary as a fishing license?

Immigration. We make arguments about the drug cartels and human trafficking, which is absolutely an issue. But the real argument is, we actually don't want all these people in the country regardless if it's done is an orderly, regulated fashion.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:06 am to
They probably do do it. You just don’t watch cspan and they aren’t all on tv because no one will bring them on
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118846 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:15 am to
The GOP is terrible at ringing elections. The Dems have the elections rigged in major inner cities. It’s really difficult to overcome the cheating in those population centers.

I’ve been saying this awhile but the GOP needs to infiltrate inner city NGOs and volunteer to harvest votes. But instead of making the harvested ballots Dem, mark them GOP and on election night the Dems will see what they need and send those box of ballots to be counted but unbeknownst to them those ballots will count GOP instead of Dem.

Their heads would explode.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8864 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:18 am to
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The GOP is terrible at ringing elections.


Stop worrying about elections. We lost the culture. Elections won't get fixed until the culture gets fixed. And we are a center left country right now.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:20 am to
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right

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always loses

Not true.
Posted by coonarse
Kingwood TX
Member since Nov 2007
374 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:20 am to
Mainly it is because almost no one on the right is an actual conservative, the few that are not good at espousing their conservative views in a way the public would understand...
If they could, the media would make sure to never give them any camera time or an interview.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30705 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:22 am to
They don’t want to win. It’s good cop bad cop theater while they launder our tax dollars.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27158 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:24 am to
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Why the right always loses


The right tries to play fair and prim and proper...

You cannot win a fight when your opponent is cheating...
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:25 am to
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The reason the right loses and has been getting getting asses kicked by the left for decades


Stopped reading here.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3265 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:26 am to
What if I told you there are ALMOST no conservatives or classic liberals in politics anymore and the party system is just a shell game??
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11508 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:27 am to
There is no "right" party in this country.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7179 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:28 am to
The premise of your post, reflected in your message title, is false. What I think frustrates you is that the right does not always win, but the right does win and rather frequently and even "bigly" as the secular saint of this Board might say. Recent Supreme Court decisions on abortion rights and the limits of regulatory power and crystal clear, significant wins for the right. You will soon see a GOP takeover of the House and possibly the Senate. The right can and does win, and there are victories on the horizon.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:31 am to
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we actually don't want all these people in the country regardless if it's done is an orderly, regulated fashion.


Why don’t we want “all these people” in the country?

It’s because unskilled workers are at best a slight net win for employers in depressing wages. And the burden to the social safety net is ridiculously large. Data from around a decade ago was that Harris county was spending $1B a year to educate the children of illegals.

The socio-cultural argument is pretty strong as well. If you import third world workers, you get third world values, which was all too evident in our recent saga with the Guatemalans and the abortion story out of Ohio.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131396 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:32 am to
nobody on the right brings up hunting as a need for 2A.

the left always uses that trope. "you don't need an AR-47 to hunt your squirrels".

i think you are one of them and trolling.


ETA - and if you think the right "never" wins, try getting an abortion in Mississippi at 16 weeks.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 11:33 am
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22184 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:36 am to
Conservatives are highly outnumbered when it comes to national elections and districts in the House. Add mail in ballots to the equation, and Democrats will control the Executive branch and The House for generations.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3568 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:43 am to
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The reason the right loses and has been getting getting asses kicked by the left for decades, is they don't know how to argue things on the premise, usually because they are scared to do it.


No your party clings to a 2000 year old book of fairy tales, which is no longer popular as people become educated.


The right has a dying problem, and it's a serious one.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7179 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:44 am to
"Democrats will control the Executive branch and The House for generations."

Actually, Republican control of state legislatures combined with Democrats tending to cluster in larger cities, gives the GOP some structural advantages in the House, which the GOP will back in November. Things are nowhere near as gloomy as believed on this board.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39367 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:58 am to
Everybody always loses. That’s why there is no thousand year reich.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140552 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:16 pm to
Your party clings to the belief that men can get pregnant. A fairy tale in real time.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6842 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:22 pm to
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It's that kids are being taught that homosexual relationships are normal and just as good and healthy as heterosexual nuclear families. Is anyone on the right really pushing back on this?


The right should drop this issue and abortions. Youre never going to pull a majority of the country by not allowing people personal freedoms and trying to rule by the bible. You cant want restriction there, then talk about freedom with guns.

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Such as guns, the premise of our argument is we need guns to kill tyrants. Yet, when was the last time someone on the right actually articulated this? I

agreed, they never say "actually guns are to keep us politicians in line..period"

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But the real argument is, we actually don't want all these people in the country regardless if it's done is an orderly, regulated fashion.


Disagree. the right has zero issue with immigrants, legal immigrants typically are a help to our country, they also usually vote red. Its undocumented people receiving our tax money.


The issue for me is the right wants to act like they are for personal responsibility and freedom, but often look hypocritical by trying to regulate things, especially citing the bible. Give people their freedoms and watch the votes roll in
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