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re: Why should we take Maxwells word on Trump?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:36 pm to AlterEd
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:36 pm to AlterEd
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Very simply. She would be foolish to lie because everything that happened there was documented and video taped. We know this. We also know the FBI has thousands of hours of said tapes. If she goes into this deal lying, she is going to have her immunity and cushy new digs revoked and she's going back to the hell hole she just left for the rest of her miserable life.
I think it's entirely possible the tapes don't reveal anything about what we'd want to know from Maxwell. Like, did Maxwell and Epstein traffic Giuffree to billionaire Glenn Dubin.
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:40 pm to lake chuck fan
Well, I have a hard time believing that the other side actually thinks in their heart of hearts that this is going to ensnare Trump. They know he's clean. We know they know this because considering everything they tried to prosecute him with (bullshite from start to finish) to keep him from retaking office, if there had been any real dirt on him relating to Epstein they wouldn't have let Maxwell sit in prison these past 4 years without ever even interviewing her (QED).
So, logically, the real reason they are trying to press this information to be released is because they're ready to risk sacrificing their own necks in many cases in order to foster some sort of unrest. They're trying to rearrange the deck chairs, so to speak. Nothing else makes sense.
And I have a strong suspicion they think that if they can force the release of the files it will lead to a declaration of war against the United States.
OR they feel like the situation is such that Trump CANNOT allow the release of the files for reasons mentioned and that all he can really do for now is be forced to try and prove a negative assertion. Which they can spin into the idea he is hiding something, again leading to potential unrest.
Trump's obvious move to head this off is to go ahead and declas everything and release it.
Let's just hope the operations overseas have been successful enough to not risk initiating global warfare over this shite.
So, logically, the real reason they are trying to press this information to be released is because they're ready to risk sacrificing their own necks in many cases in order to foster some sort of unrest. They're trying to rearrange the deck chairs, so to speak. Nothing else makes sense.
And I have a strong suspicion they think that if they can force the release of the files it will lead to a declaration of war against the United States.
OR they feel like the situation is such that Trump CANNOT allow the release of the files for reasons mentioned and that all he can really do for now is be forced to try and prove a negative assertion. Which they can spin into the idea he is hiding something, again leading to potential unrest.
Trump's obvious move to head this off is to go ahead and declas everything and release it.
Let's just hope the operations overseas have been successful enough to not risk initiating global warfare over this shite.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:40 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
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Release the files and let the cards fall where they may.
With everything the Biden did to try and put Trump away do you really think they would have held anything back when they were in charge? What does that tell you? I believe there are many people on the left and right guilty of some shady shite with the epstein crap...but Trump isn't one of them. Also do you think releasing the files would bring charges against anyone? if so wouldn't that mean that the previous DOJ protected people from criminal prosecution and charges should be brought against anyone who "ignored" those charges?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:43 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
Trump respects her. Is that not good enough?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:46 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
I think it’s better than 0 testimony but clearly someone testifying in a situation that could implement the president while asking for a Pardon is a conflict.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:48 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
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This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:49 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
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Why should we take Maxwells word on Trump?
Some of you are all set not to. Mainly because you WANT something damaging to come out.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:49 pm to SammyTiger
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I think it’s better than 0 testimony but clearly someone testifying in a situation that could implement the president while asking for a Pardon is a conflict.
Yes
But I don't really see any way around it. And there is no real reason to expect she would have incriminating information on Trump based on all the evidence/info we've learned over the years.
Contrast that with Clinton, who witnesses have put on Epstein Island and which Clinton denies. Maxwell knows the truth on that and could conceivably testify persuasively enough that the public can make a reasonably informed decision on the veracity.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:52 pm to Pettifogger
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Contrast that with Clinton, who witnesses have put on Epstein Island and which Clinton denies. Maxwell knows the truth on that and could conceivably testify persuasively enough that the public can make a reasonably informed decision on the veracity.
Seems like it'd be pretty much guaranteed at this point that she's been asked and has answered this question.
These people are playing with absolute fire pursuing this in hopes of getting Trump. I mean, it's just crazy how desperate he has them at this point.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:52 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:55 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
Melt
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:56 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
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She obviously wants to do or say whatever she needs to get out of jail.
If Trump did anything inappropriate don't you think Maxwell would use that to get what she wants?
Sooner or later common sense has to kick in with some of the retards around here.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:57 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
What's the deal with people starting threads and then disappearing?
None of us have anything to do with Epstein, we weren't involved and aren't apart of the DOJ and FBI.
You don't have to, everyone can choose whether to take her word or not.
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I thought you guys cared about protecting children?
None of us have anything to do with Epstein, we weren't involved and aren't apart of the DOJ and FBI.
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Why should we take Maxwells word on Trump?
You don't have to, everyone can choose whether to take her word or not.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:00 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
Duuurrrr!
You have to be pretty stupid to get past the truth that the Biden administration didn't find Epstein dirt on Trump.
But Pedocrats are.
You have to be pretty stupid to get past the truth that the Biden administration didn't find Epstein dirt on Trump.
But Pedocrats are.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:02 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
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Why should we take Maxwells word on Trump?
1. No evidence has ever come out about Trump's involvement with Epstein's activities despite democrats having the evidence for years
2. Trump kicked Epstein out of MAL
3. Trump reported Epstein
4. Trump was the only person willing to work with the victims' lawyer
5. The democrat DOJ chose to never interview her
6. They had to make up crimes to charge Trump
It's not hard to see the truth in this case.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:04 pm to NC_Tigah
Maxwell was if not a fugitive from justice between July 2019 and July 2020, she was actively evading justice during that period. Prosecutors.....and judges tend to take that as an implicit acknowledgement of being guilty of something pertaining to the issues at hand. It's not a good look when the FBI has to start looking for you and they break out the Stingray's
Consider: she could not be found for over a year. When she was found, it was on a property in New Hampshire that she used a straw buyer to purchase. She had 4 different passports.....she supposedly legitimately holds 3 (US, uK and France).
Consider: she could not be found for over a year. When she was found, it was on a property in New Hampshire that she used a straw buyer to purchase. She had 4 different passports.....she supposedly legitimately holds 3 (US, uK and France).
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:06 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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It's not hard to see the truth in this case.
No it is not. At all. Crimes against children is the one thing that will unite the left and the right. Not all of them of course, but the leaders of both parties get up to this shite and once all is revealed, everyone who isn't just a monster themselves is going to be on board with what has to happen in order to fix it.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:14 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
Haven’t heard anything about Trump other than from Democrats pundits. Not a word from G M, Epstein’s people, nothing in Epstein arrest file, government investigators or prosecutors but somehow PB & DU and democrats pundits all know Trump is up to his eyeballs
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:16 pm to VeniceBeachMouton
Why should we take a convicted child sex traffickers looking for a sweeter deal or pardon word on anything?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:20 pm to KiwiHead
quote:Right.
Maxwell was if not a fugitive from justice between July 2019 and July 2020, she was actively evading justice during that period. Prosecutors.....and judges tend to take that as an implicit acknowledgement of being guilty of something
I'm not sure how that is responsive to my post though.
It does raise a very interesting question. Why did she not scoot off to France where she could not have been extradited?
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