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re: Why Not have badge lock doors at schools,like they have on hotel rooms?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 10:03 am to auggie
Posted on 2/19/18 at 10:03 am to auggie
Someone hell bent on killing Kids will just wait until school lets out then mow people down as school lets out.
Unfortunately, someone willing to do it, will find a way.
Unfortunately, someone willing to do it, will find a way.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 10:05 am
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 10:58 am to auggie
Like at Newtown/ Sandy Hook?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 11:08 am to coondaddy21
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Someone hell bent on killing Kids will just wait until school lets out then mow people down as school lets out. Unfortunately, someone willing to do it, will find a way.
Yes,but if it happens out in plain sight,there's a pretty good chance,that an armed citizen can stop them.
The whole problem inside of a gun free zone,the only person with a gun will be a criminal with bad intentions.
Inside of a school,it's like shooting fish in a barrel,nobody outside knows what's going on inside,until it's too late.
Security at these places should be priority #1. I realize that no security is perfect,but you can reduce the carnage possible.
Trampling the Constitutional Rights of The Nation is not the answer. There are other avenues that will work better.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 11:11 am to KiwiHead
quote:
Like at Newtown/ Sandy Hook?
There were badge locks on class room doors?
and armed security guards?
I didn't know this.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 11:18 am to auggie
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quote: Like at Newtown/ Sandy Hook?
There were badge locks on class room doors? and armed security guards? I didn't know this.
I don't know if there were either of those. I do know that the front doors were locked and visitors needed to be buzzed in. They may have been badge operated as well.
Lansa shot out either a sidelight next to the front door or a glass door itself to gain entry. He then shot up the adults in the reception area/office, before moving on to the classrooms.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:14 pm to auggie
At Sandy Hook, you could not just walk in, you needed to have a key to get in the door to the classroom area. You can check it out . No they did not have Marshalls. Lanza got around that by shooting through the glass and shooting up the door.....so much for locks.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:49 pm to auggie
This is what is on every exterior door of my kids school.
If you go to the office you must be buzzed in.
If you go to the office you must be buzzed in.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 1:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
Most schools built in the last 5 years already have great security.
Only way in is front door, must be buzzed in.
Only way in is front door, must be buzzed in.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:47 pm to KiwiHead
Glass doors huh? not even bulletproof glass?
Why even bother with a lock?
sure, a lock on a glass door might keep out drug dealers and book salesmen,not much use beyond that.
Why even bother with a lock?
sure, a lock on a glass door might keep out drug dealers and book salesmen,not much use beyond that.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 6:35 pm to auggie
I doubt the Fire Marshall would allow it unless the locks deactivated when a fire alarm is triggered. The shooter would just pull an alarm or start some kind of fire/ distraction to get people out in the open.
If someone is hell bent and has half a brain, they can carry out acts of violence. People have to change their hearts.
If someone is hell bent and has half a brain, they can carry out acts of violence. People have to change their hearts.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:13 pm to sleepytime
Kinda agree—-just Wonder why it happens so much in America tho.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:15 pm to auggie
Who is going to pay for all these added security measures people keep thinking up?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:39 pm to sleepytime
The fire Marshall allows it at Hotels.
A lock like this wouldn't keep anybody in,only locks someone out,who doesn't have a badge,or card key.
It's a 1 way lock.
People aren't going to get nicer,you can take that to the fricking bank.
That's why giving up your guns is an idiotic idea.
A lock like this wouldn't keep anybody in,only locks someone out,who doesn't have a badge,or card key.
It's a 1 way lock.
People aren't going to get nicer,you can take that to the fricking bank.
That's why giving up your guns is an idiotic idea.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:46 pm to habanos
quote:
Who is going to pay for all these added security measures people keep thinking up?
Same as always,those of us that pay taxes. The lock thing shouldn't really even be very expensive.These types of locks are everywhere.
It's a lot less costly than infringing The 2nd Amendment ,that would end up very costly,and I'm not talking about money.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:50 pm to Crimson Wraith
quote:I thought this was the norm anyways?
Having that only on exterior doors would help a lot.
All my educator friends and family have cards to scan in their schools, Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:05 pm to The_Duke
quote:
just Wonder why it happens so much in America tho.
Because there are a lot of terrible parents.Some that try to control their kids every thought,and some that let their kids by with anything.Both are dangerous.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:24 pm to auggie
quote:And research supports this. Authoritative parenting usuallyeads to the best outcomes. Reasonable expectations and standards are set but children's views and ideas are valued and considered. And they are reinforced for their good behavior and can earn autonomy and privileges, instead of just punishing every time they aren't perfect or conversely giving them free reign.
Because there are a lot of terrible parents.Some that try to control their kids every thought,and some that let their kids by with anything.Both are dangerous.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:40 pm to buckeye_vol
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And research supports this. Authoritative parenting usuallyeads to the best outcomes. Reasonable expectations and standards are set but children's views and ideas are valued and considered. And they are reinforced for their good behavior and can earn autonomy and privileges, instead of just punishing every time they aren't perfect or conversely giving them free reign.
Kids crave authority,properly administered and explained. That way they know that you really care about them.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:55 pm to Pesticide
right,he could probably find a way to enter the main building like that,maybe,but there is a good chance he would be spotted with the gun.
If the kid's badges only opened 1 certain classroom door,at each period of the day,for the class he should be in. Then you have made that type of situation more difficult.
the computer would control where and when a person had access to a room. A student couldn't just open any door.
If the kid's badges only opened 1 certain classroom door,at each period of the day,for the class he should be in. Then you have made that type of situation more difficult.
the computer would control where and when a person had access to a room. A student couldn't just open any door.
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