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Why Legalizing drugs won't stop cartels

Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted by red_giraffe
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:15 pm
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But would legalization really work? With each day that passes, it looks like it wouldn’t be enough, for one overarching reason: The cartels are becoming less like traffickers and more like mafias. Their currency is no longer just cocaine, methamphetamines, or heroin, though they earn revenue from each of these products. As they have grown in size and ambition, like so many big multinational corporations, they have diversified. The cartels are now active in all types of illicit markets, not just drugs.

"Mexico is experiencing a change with the emergence of criminal organizations that, rather than being product-oriented — drug trafficking — are territorial based," says Antonio Mazzitelli, head of the UNODC office in Mexico City. They now specialize in running protection rackets of all kinds, he says, which might explain why the violence has gotten so bad: Mafias enforce their territorial control by force, killing anyone who resists or gets in the way.

"Before, we had organized crime, but operating strictly in narcotrafficking," adds Eduardo Guerrero Gutiérrez, a consultant and former advisor to the Mexican presidency. "Now we have a type of mafia violence … and they are extorting from the people at levels that are incredibly high — from the rich, from businesses." For this reason, Mazzitelli says, legalization would have "little effect."




Read the full article. Do you agree with this? If so, what would it take to actually end Mexican cartels?
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:18 pm to
Prohibition created the mafia. They went the same route.

It's only natural that this happened.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35626 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:23 pm to


Retard
Posted by red_giraffe
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
1045 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:24 pm to
I think you're missing a major point from your own statement. Did the mafia end when prohibition ended?
Posted by red_giraffe
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
1045 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:24 pm to
Lol shut up, dickface
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35626 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:26 pm to
May your dick burn like syphilis infecting just your peehole with aside dose of herpes.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:28 pm to
It may not end the cartels but it may keep their activities deep inside the border
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35626 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:30 pm to
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It may not end the cartels but it may keep their activities deep inside


This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 10:31 pm
Posted by red_giraffe
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
1045 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:32 pm to
That's possible. But they could turn to other means like sex trafficking, or kidnapping which could just as easily take place on this side of the border.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101436 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:33 pm to
Why? You think Phizer is going to suddenly start producing and marketing recreational heroin? I've yet to see anyone succinctly explain to me how that's going to work, exactly.
Posted by Orange_and_Blur
Gainesville
Member since Nov 2017
644 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:34 pm to
Mexicans are cowards. They could get rid of the cartels overnight. It's a very small percentage of the population involved. They outnumber the cartel folks at least 10,000 to 1.

Cowards.

They don't care enough about their own country to remove a bunch of murderous thugs yet people think they'll be good inhabitants in our country? LULZ

Lock down the border and force them to clean up their own land.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:35 pm to
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That's possible. But they could turn to other means like sex trafficking, or kidnapping which could just as easily take place on this side of the border.



It's far harder to traffic humans than narcotics
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:36 pm to
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Why? You think Phizer is going to suddenly start producing and marketing recreational heroin? I've yet to see anyone succinctly explain to me how that's going to work, exactly.

I've never claimed that legalizing all drugs is a magic bullet
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260605 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:36 pm to
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Before, we had organized crime, but operating strictly in narcotrafficking," adds Eduardo Guerrero Gutiérrez, a consultant and former advisor to the Mexican presidency. "Now we have a type of mafia violence … and they are extorting from the people at levels that are incredibly high — from the rich, from businesses." For this reason, Mazzitelli says, legalization would have "little effect."


This was part of the lifecycle of organized crime in the USA after prohibition. Went from booze to business
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101436 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:37 pm to
I'm not saying you did. I honestly just can't see the logistics of it beyond pot.
Posted by winston318
Oklahoma City,OK
Member since Sep 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:40 pm to
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Mexicans are cowards
Really

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They don't care enough about their own country to remove a bunch of murderous thugs yet people think they'll be good inhabitants in our country? LULZ


You do understand that they are only source of income in some of those towns. Why would they get rid of their income source
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260605 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:42 pm to
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Why? You think Phizer is going to suddenly start producing and marketing recreational heroin? I've yet to see anyone succinctly explain to me how that's going to work, exactly.


I really don't care. I care faaaar more about associated crimes like burglary and shoplifting. Drugs being cheap will. Actually help.

There's a limited number of people who will become junkies. It's not in the drug companies best interest for their clientele to killthemselves on the product
Posted by Orange_and_Blur
Gainesville
Member since Nov 2017
644 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:43 pm to
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Really


yes really

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You do understand that they are only source of income in some of those towns. Why would they get rid of their income source


10,000 to 1
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:46 pm to
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If so, what would it take to actually end Mexican cartels?


Not have a shite hole corrupt country. Then once people commit crimes they go to jail. They aren’t sending their best, folks.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:46 pm to
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Orange_and_Blur

Your troll game is weak, kid
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