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Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:28 pm to Warboo
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I have heard Trump refer to it as a invasion.
That doesn't make it so.
DEMs said the J6ers engaged in "insurrection" during political grandstanding events, but none were charged that way when it came time to do actual legal work.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:29 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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And this is also not something than is subject to judicial review.
Determining this
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claim the TDA gang was SENT here by Venezuela.
is subject to judicial review, as it applies to this:
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any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:29 pm to TBoy
Don’t be obtuse, as you very clearly know he didn’t but violent gangs or people that came into this country that don’t have commitments to the country can be and has been now
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That doesn't make it so.
Au contraire mon frère.
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and the President makes public proclamation of the event,
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Can you not read or understand grammar? The law doesn’t require a declared war as there is a clause that states “OR any invasion or predatory incursion” as a trigger. What has happened with these illegal aliens is clearly an invasion or predatory incursion. Damn, for a so-called “lawyer” you sure are a dumb arse.
Has the Alien and Enemies Act ever been invoked for people not subject to a state that the US specifically declared war against?
Has it ever been attempted to be combined with the AUMF in order to achieve the "declared war" requirement?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:32 pm to MontanaTiger
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What has happened with these illegal aliens is clearly an invasion or predatory incursion.
That is 100% not clear, just FWIW
And I'm guessing you can't answer my questions. I don't think there are any examples.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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is subject to judicial review, as it applies to this:
Foreign intelligence and national security issues are not subject to judicial review.
How can a judge determine whether or not they were sent here by Venezuela? These things are can be based on spies, surveillance etc. They can't be proven in court.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:33 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Au contraire mon frère.
That is just saying the President has to make it publicly known. His declarations still have to fall within the statutory authority of the law.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
You like legalese, read the first paragraph of the SCOTUS ruling. Clearly states judicial’s can pound sand
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:34 pm to MontanaTiger
So this board (and apparently Trump's administration) is now contending that the government of Venezuela is invading the United States? In order for this Act to apply, the invasion has to be by a foreign nation or government.
If this is true, surely we should then declare war on Venezuela, right? That should be the first step if we're getting invaded by another country.
If this is true, surely we should then declare war on Venezuela, right? That should be the first step if we're getting invaded by another country.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That is 100% not clear
Based on the law as I read it, and I just heard Stephen Miller read it as they will argue it, it doesn't have to be 100 percent clear. Or even 1 percent clear. The president has broad latitude, almost complete latitude.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:35 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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How can a judge determine whether or not they were sent here by Venezuela?
The admin has to present evidence to justify this to show their actions conform to the statute.
Again, I'll ask this again: what is the recourse if the admin makes a mistake and improperly or overbroadly applies the law? Just oopsies, nobody can do anything to restrain the illegal actions of the admin?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:36 pm to TrueTiger
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You can be drafted and shipped off to a battlefield.
Much more than that.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The admin has to present evidence to justify this to show their actions conform to the statute.
I don't believe that to be true.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:37 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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it doesn't have to be 100 percent clear. Or even 1 percent clear. The president has broad latitude, almost complete latitude.
So the President can just declare any behavior by any person (including citizens) to fall under that portion of the law and remove them from the country with no due process? And transport them to a foreign jail?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:37 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I don't believe that to be true.
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what is the recourse if the admin makes a mistake and improperly or overbroadly applies the law? Just oopsies, nobody can do anything to restrain the illegal actions of the admin?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:40 pm to VoxDawg
Stephen Miller is a baw.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
Is that what the law says?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:41 pm to goatmilker
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Is that what the law says?
That's what the interpretation of the law (and the restrictions on the judiciary in interpreting that law) floating around here are arguing.
I clearly do not agree, but it's not my argument to defend.
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