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re: Why Is This Very Simple Concept So Difficult for Some Americans to Understand?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:49 am to Smokeyone
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:49 am to Smokeyone
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What do you think is the louder voice-
This is the conundrum - you can make good cases for either side on individual bases.
The original implementation of these edicts were the problem.
IF we are facing a crisis that requires the shutdown of the economy - then EVERYONE should suffer the same deprivations regardless of status.
eg. - the ones MAKING the rules should CERTAINLY be subject to the deprivations resulting from those rules - and more.
And you CERTAINLY should not make 'rules' that only impact your political foes and benefit your political friends.
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:50 am to cajunangelle
That’s the most disheartening part. It is corrupt from top to bottom. Only small little pockets of true freedom remain. It would take a massive effort and everyone to get involved in public service to pry those people out of our institutions.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:50 am to ChineseBandit58
This is probably a good time to remind folks that Congress never missed a paycheck during the CV hoax.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:04 am to VoxDawg
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The first thing I believe we need to get back into the habit of doing is contacting our representatives when there's something we're passionate about. They need to know how their constituents feel.
This makes sense.
IMO - the Right needs to learn how to organize, fund and act at the grassroots level. This is in the Left’s DNA - seriously, how many organizations, institutions and industries are out and about championing Lefty causes. Now do the Right.
It’s true this isn’t in the Right’s nature. We’re more about individualism, leave me alone and let me live my life. Problem is that’s no longer an option. We need to engage in well thought out/formal ways, or we’ll continue to be steamrolled by the very machine that we (majority) fund.
Consider this site. There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of really smart, resourceful, engaged conservatives that participate here. Why hasn’t a meaningful/impactful effort of some sort been spawned here? Compare this to the digital army of small time investors who literally moved markets over GameStop.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:19 am to AURaptor
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people get duped by false messaging
IF I had to pick ONE cause of the predicament we suffer today it is /\ this /\
I think until we cleanse the 'mass media' (and all of the cabal that support it or depends on it) of their strangle hold on INFORMATION we can never live up to founding principles.
Our constitution protects the rights of a "free press" - but I do not think it protects some organizations in their endeavors to limit the rights of others = either by monopolistic practices or abusing license privileges.
They should be required to have some standard for stating something as 'news' as opposed to 'opinion.'
I believe 'free speech' applies at the INDIVIDUAL level - not to some cabal acting on coordinated and secret motives.
ANYONE should be allowed to stand on the corner carrying a "the end is near" sign, but that message should NOT be allowed to be broadcast over a radio frequency that is assigned to some private interest by the federal government = unless it is also required to broadcast an opposing message if requested. The corporation itself should not be allowed to use their govt issued license for that airspace to censor anyone else from using it for their own messages.
And the government should be able to impose rules of the road for use of that airspace - just like they do for highways with speed limits, etc. = e.g. a car with a CNN logo should not be able to speed thru a residential school district at 80 mph while all other traffic is required to observe stop signs and limit their speed to 20 mph.
Corporations are not people.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:38 am to ChineseBandit58
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I think until we cleanse the 'mass media' (and all of the cabal that support it or depends on it) of their strangle hold on INFORMATION we can never live up to founding principles.
Our constitution protects the rights of a "free press" - but I do not think it protects some organizations in their endeavors to limit the rights of others = either by monopolistic practices or abusing license privileges.
They should be required to have some standard for stating something as 'news' as opposed to 'opinion.'
I believe 'free speech' applies at the INDIVIDUAL level - not to some cabal acting on coordinated and secret motives.
ANYONE should be allowed to stand on the corner carrying a "the end is near" sign, but that message should NOT be allowed to be broadcast over a radio frequency that is assigned to some private interest by the federal government = unless it is also required to broadcast an opposing message if requested. The corporation itself should not be allowed to use their govt issued license for that airspace to censor anyone else from using it for their own messages.
And the government should be able to impose rules of the road for use of that airspace - just like they do for highways with speed limits, etc. = e.g. a car with a CNN logo should not be able to speed thru a residential school district at 80 mph while all other traffic is required to observe stop signs and limit their speed to 20 mph.
The Mockingbird MSM is alive and well, and it serves as the propaganda wing of the Uniparty.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:44 am to SidewalkDawg
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I think that's a very optimistic and short sighted view of the situation we find ourselves in.
To a point, but there is still time for us as a people to stand up and say enough! Most people are too fat and happy to do so. The whole frog in a pot scenario...
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:01 am to David_DJS
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This is in the Left’s DNA - seriously, how many organizations, institutions and industries are out and about championing Lefty causes.
How much of this is funded by billionaire oligarchs and the Chinese?
I do think the republican party at the state level is very much vulnerable to grass roots pressure. Anybody remember the Tea Party? RINOs need to go. New people with new priorities need to be running the red states. My concern is just how much time remains before it is too late to work within the democratic system.
What happens if nothing is done to fix the election system before 2022?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:05 am to SidewalkDawg
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I think that's a very optimistic and short sighted view of the situation we find ourselves in.
If enough Americans crowd their respective Capital steps, file lawsuits, challenge school boards, and show that they are willing to be uncomfortable for the sake of change - the politicians will back down.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:42 am to SidewalkDawg
quote:I do find it funny that folks around here really only apply that to those who mask up when going to places that require a mask.
I think that's a very optimistic and short sighted view of the situation we find ourselves in.
But those that don't or still adhering to the policies, they're just staying home and/or not going to the places they used to go that require masks, so they're not doing what that tweet says either.
Point being, none of us are. We're all complying to it in one way or another.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:03 pm to VoxDawg
The governed want to be governed.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 1:18 pm to VoxDawg
The problem here is the word 'nonsense.' This is a diverse country. Not all of us agree on what nonsense is. If you think nonsense includes asking people to get vaccinated so they don't spread a deadly virus, then a lot of Americans will disagree with you. Some people on here support the Jan. 6 violence at the Capitol, but will say that BLM protestors aren't real Americans. It just depends on your point of view.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 1:37 pm to Tigers2010a
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How much of this is funded by billionaire oligarchs and the Chinese?
Probably a lot, but remember - we have more money. It's just spread around amongst 75 million families. So let's not use the Soros effect as an excuse.
The Right has more money, is smarter, more productive and is on the right side of the issues (assuming you believe America isn't a racist cesspool of oppressors). There is nothing in our way of fixing things other than a lot of effort.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 1:39 pm to VoxDawg
Mass resistance
Can’t put all of us in jail
Can’t put all of us in jail
Posted on 8/4/21 at 1:47 pm to VoxDawg
Indoctrination has rendered people like the poster below you both ignorant and cowardly.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 4:33 pm to VoxDawg
In theory this is correct, unfortunately reality today is that the government derrives its power from the barrel of a gun. As long as the threat of violence from the government is present, it is secure. When it loses power, it's because those who carry the weapons refuse to kill their fellow citizens.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 5:18 pm
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