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re: Why is the GOP so weak? Governors bending the knee everywhere re Covid

Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:26 am to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:26 am to
I did answer you

Texas did not re-open too soon. Please explain these forced social distancing measures. Thank you.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11424 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:27 am to
Governments could do that, Gumbo, but they're choosing not to because they fear the consequences.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119777 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:27 am to
Oh you know TigerDoc supports Newsom’s “strike teams” harassing people on the beach
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:28 am to
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Please explain these forced social distancing measures.


There is no scientific basis for this novel social distancing.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:29 am to
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hey're choosing not to because they fear the consequences.



So lawyers.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7121 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:29 am to
TMC ICU beds and % that are Covid

TMC Covid Hospitalizations

Hospitalization lag cases by 1-2 weeks.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125327 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:31 am to
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The Texas Medical Center sounded the alarms for week then almost instantly backtracked after Abbott shut down elective procedures.


This is hilarious.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11424 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:31 am to
There are a dozen plans on the shelf. Heritage Foundation, Paul Romer's, etc. As far as forcing social distancing, fines and shaming would be the limit unless we're talking known-positive people with active symptoms in which case you could have quarantine.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125327 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:32 am to
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Harris County peaked 3 weeks ago. Where do they see that there is an uptick in cases???


It’s not cases unless it’s cases.
It’s hospitalizations. Unless they’re going down.
Then it might be cases.
Unless those are going down.
Then it’s not enough testing.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119777 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:32 am to
Still not at 400 deaths in Harris County. Only 650 total for a region of 7 million people.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119777 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:33 am to
Social distancing how? Shutdowns? Again, I’m asking you to clarify.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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125327 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:33 am to
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Hospitalization lag cases by 1-2 weeks.


So hospitalizations will be going down shortly is what you’re saying?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119777 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:33 am to
Either our hospitals in Harris County are the masters of Covid handling or they admitted people who would’ve recovered at home.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:34 am to
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If you had full control, what would you do?



Masks would be optional. If I mandated it I wouldn't put a fricking penalty of $1000 fine or jail time.

I wouldn't be a hypocrite saying you can protest but not attend religious services. It would be the same standard.

If positive cases are rising and weeks later the death rate is not and it's getting lower then why would I continue to shut down businesses?

This virus isn't going anywhere.


I'd also 100% open all schools. Zero question. This isn't effecting children or young people at all.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:34 am to
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Are you admitting you are Tigerdoc? Or just dumb as frick like tigerdoc?
I made an error and admitted as much ... as I always do on those occasions when it happens.

But YOU insulting the intelligence of Doc is a bit like Herve Villechaize arguing that Shaq is short.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125327 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:35 am to
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Still not at 400 deaths in Harris County. Only 650 total for a region of 7 million people.


St. Louis has 725 deaths with 1.3M population. No one other than the local emergency coalition ever pretended we were in crisis.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 9:39 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125327 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:35 am to
Lol at Hank
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125327 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:41 am to
Just so we’re clear, Italy isn’t testing asymptomatic patients.

If the US wasn’t testing asymptomatic patients, you’d lose your mind. Italy isn’t. But you’re holding them up as a model of testing. And championing their results from a process you don’t even agree with. You’re a gaslighter and an idiot.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:42 am to
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Just so we’re clear, Italy isn’t testing asymptomatic patients.

If the US wasn’t testing asymptomatic patients, you’d lose your mind. Italy isn’t. But you’re holding them up as a model of testing. And championing their results from a process you don’t even agree with. You’re a gaslighter and an idiot.



Has Italy or Europe even opened up their economy yet like we have in the states?
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23376 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:42 am to
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We're not going to have effective state responses without an effective national response.


What the hell does this even mean? What specifically from the task force guidelines are you upset about?

While I will not argue that masks should reduce transmission it appears there are some assumptions on results that are probably based on impractical execution. I think we can see some normal situations with a broad bush mandate that are just illogical on reflection and ultimately undermine messaging.

I believe as was the focus since the initial task force briefings, treat this as excellent execution of normal hygiene practices we have preached about related to the flu for years. IMO everything was screwed up by the sensational media and groups dismissing the virus in regards to the riots. That destroyed messaging and the media and health organizations should be ashamed of themselves.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 3:19 pm
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