- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Why is Obama Panicking Now? – The Importance of Understanding Political Surveillance
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:54 am
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:54 am
quote:
Why is former President Obama calling forth all his defensive resources now? Why did former national security advisor Susan Rice write her cya letter? Why have republicans in congress not been willing to investigate the true origins of political surveillance? What is the reason for so much anger, desperation and opposition from a variety of interests?
With the release of recent transcripts and the declassification of material from within the IG report, the Carter Page FISA and Flynn documents showing FBI activity, there is a common misconception about why the intelligence apparatus began investigating the Trump campaign in the first place. Why was Donald Trump considered a threat?
In this outline we hope to provide some fully cited deep source material that will explain the origin; and specifically why those inside the Intelligence Community began targeting Trump and using Confidential Human Sources against campaign officials.
quote:
During the time-frame of December 2015 through April 2016 the NSA database was being exploited by contractors within the intelligence community doing unauthorized searches.
On March 9, 2016, oversight personnel doing a review of FBI system access were alerted to thousands of unauthorized search queries of specific U.S. persons within the NSA database.
NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers was made aware.
Subsequently NSA Director Rogers initiated a full compliance review of the system to identify who was doing the searches; & what searches were being conducted.
On April 18, 2016, following the preliminary audit results, Director Rogers shut down all FBI contractor access to the database after he learned FISA-702 “about”(17) and “to/from”(16) search queries were being done without authorization. Thus begins the first discovery of a much bigger background story.
Much more on The Conservative Tree House
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:57 am to FrenchToast
He should have kept quiet and hoped for a pardon!
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:06 am to FrenchToast
Love to see the Kenyan perped walked but striping him of his Presidential creature comforts and his legacy demolished will suffice.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:12 am to FrenchToast
Obama is panicking? I've not seen that.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:45 am to Jake88
quote:
How this all comes together in 2019/2020?
Fusion GPS was not hired in April 2016 just to research Donald Trump. As shown in the evidence provided by the FISC, the intelligence community was already doing surveillance and spy operations. The Obama administration already knew everything about the Trump campaign, and were monitoring everything by exploiting the FISA database.
However, after the NSA alerts in/around March 9th, 2016, and particularly after the April 18th shutdown of contractor access, the Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to create a legal albeit ex post facto justification for the pre-existing surveillance and spy operations. Fusion GPS gave them that justification in the Steele Dossier.
That’s why the FBI small group, which later transitioned into the Mueller team, were so strongly committed to and defending the formation of the Steele Dossier and its dubious content.
The Steele Dossier, an outcome of the Fusion contract, contains three insurance policy purposes: (1) the cover-story and justification for the pre-existing surveillance operation (protect Obama); and (2) facilitate the FBI counterintelligence operation against the Trump campaign (assist Clinton); and (3) continue the operation with a special counsel (protect both).
An insurance policy would be needed. The Steele Dossier becomes the investigative virus the FBI wanted inside the system. To get the virus into official status, they used the FISA application as the delivery method and injected it into Carter Page. The FBI already knew Carter Page; essentially Carter Page was irrelevant, what they needed was the FISA warrant and the Dossier in the system {Go Deep}.
The Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to give them a plausible justification for already existing surveillance and spy operations. Fusion-GPS gave them that justification and evidence for a FISA warrant with the Steele Dossier.
Ultimately that’s why the Steele Dossier was so important; without it, the FBI would not have a tool that Mueller needed to continue the investigation of President Trump. In essence by renewing the FISA application, despite them knowing the underlying dossier was junk, the FBI was keeping the surveillance gateway open for Team Mueller to exploit later on.
Additionally, without the Steele Dossier the DOJ and FBI are naked with their FISA-702 abuse as outlined by John Ratcliffe.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:51 am to FrenchToast
listen carefully to this Trey Gowdy interview...
LINK
he says all the right things but stops short of Obama, he is such a strange bird. I thought he was going to a small practice in SC? He now has a podcast on fox. Paul Ryan likes him some Trey Gowdy.
Remember this is the same Gowdy that said LAST WEEK that it isn't a crime to be a bad FBI agent and he is now saying 10 year felony for leaking classified information.
LINK
he says all the right things but stops short of Obama, he is such a strange bird. I thought he was going to a small practice in SC? He now has a podcast on fox. Paul Ryan likes him some Trey Gowdy.
Remember this is the same Gowdy that said LAST WEEK that it isn't a crime to be a bad FBI agent and he is now saying 10 year felony for leaking classified information.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:56 am to FrenchToast
Thanks for posting. That article was very informative.
The issues of “surveillance” using the NSA database, it’s proper usage, and it’s potential for abuse is poorly understood by most people.
This article helps clarify the vast scope of the illegal spying being done by a collusion of Obama administration officials and operatives with ties to the DNC and Hillary Clinton.
There was no actual wall between the official intelligence agencies and the Democratic Party under Obama and his legacy bearer, Hillary Clinton.
The issues of “surveillance” using the NSA database, it’s proper usage, and it’s potential for abuse is poorly understood by most people.
This article helps clarify the vast scope of the illegal spying being done by a collusion of Obama administration officials and operatives with ties to the DNC and Hillary Clinton.
There was no actual wall between the official intelligence agencies and the Democratic Party under Obama and his legacy bearer, Hillary Clinton.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:06 am to FrenchToast
I know Obama was behind all of this, I just don't see panicking. What i heard on his call was "Uh, huh, buh, ah, uhh" typical Obama, but not panic. And I want to hear panic.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:08 am to Jake88
quote:
Obama is panicking? I've not seen that.
yeah his released phone call was by accident
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:10 am to SDVTiger
But thats not panic, thats politics. I want panic. This board's thread titles are often overstated and a letdown.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:28 am to Jake88
LOL at the dipshit that thinks Obama is not panicking. Flynn is literally his worst nightmare. All this Russian shite started so that they could remove Flynn. He is probably so nervous, he couldn't enjoy the company of Reggie Love.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:31 am to saints5021
I don't want to have to imagine it. I want to hear it in his voice.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:32 am to saints5021
This is bigger than Watergate.
The difference is the perpetrator is no longer in office.
The difference is the perpetrator is no longer in office.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:36 am to FrenchToast
I read this yesterday. I watched the video link at the end of the article - testimony of Rodgers and McCabe before Congress.
Rodgers describes the NSA database as inadvertently collecting info on Americans and he’s moving to fix it (technical solution)
No where in his testimony did Rodgers state that the database was being intentionally abused to search Americans by people without proper approvals.
Rodgers made it sound like an oopsie. That doesn’t align with what CTH is reporting.
Thoughts??
Rodgers describes the NSA database as inadvertently collecting info on Americans and he’s moving to fix it (technical solution)
No where in his testimony did Rodgers state that the database was being intentionally abused to search Americans by people without proper approvals.
Rodgers made it sound like an oopsie. That doesn’t align with what CTH is reporting.
Thoughts??
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:54 am to saints5021
Are Tom Hanks and the Hollywood pedos still out on those ships?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:02 am to FrenchToast
Line them up from NOVA to NYC if they’ll reach.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:13 am to Jake88
they have nothing else but to deny that Van Grack dropped the case for good reason.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:18 am to BobBoucher
quote:
Rodgers made it sound like an oopsie. That doesn’t align with what CTH is reporting
Come on dude! Either you lack reading comprehension or you are willfully blind to the story here.
Why were “government contractors” given the power to search the NSA database?
Who are those people? They were DNC/Hillary people doing opposition research!
Who were they looking at? It’s been redacted (for what purpose, I can only guess), but they were looking at Trump and his team.
This was BEFORE Clinton’s emails were released, BEFORE the Papadopoulos meeting with Downer, BEFORE the Simpson/Steele dossier was released.
85% of the “about” searches were done illegally. That’s tens of thousands of illegal acts of spying going back to 2012.
Rodgers did NOT think it was an “oopsie”. Jesus, dude! What will it take?
Try to imagine if you discovered the Trump administration and the RNC was using the NSA database to spy on Biden, Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders, etc., and then fabricated a ‘dossier’ to cover their tracks, and then used their sympathetic news agencies to push leaks and create a Known false narrative of Russian collusion to sabotage Biden.
Can you even imagine a fraction of that happening? Well it did happen. The evidence is completely exposed now, except it was the Democrats who did this.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:19 am to Jimbeaux
On the subject of “government contractors”, wasn’t Snowden such a contractor and his whistleblowing directly related to the kind of shite he was able to pull from that position?
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News