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re: Why is military spending ignored when its clearly the largest piece?

Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:21 pm to
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Military is forced welfare.

And "frick you" from every single one of these welfare recipients.



Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:24 pm to
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Its forced because we are forced to believe its a necessity when it really isnt.


A military is most certainly necessary. Now there is room to argue what size and scope.

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Its welfare because we are helping the needy into thinking we are teaching them to fish when in reality we are sitting the majority down and feeding them fish anyways.



This doesn't make a fricking bit of sense. They're compensated for long hours, being away from families, and for some getting shot at, blown up, etc.

And again, your "only the poor enlist" theme is utter and complete bullshite.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128758 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:24 pm to
There's no need to exert emotional energy on someone who is either young and dumb or reliving the glory days of Vietnam protesting.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:24 pm to
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the evil doers



You're smarter than that.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6583 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:25 pm to
The military from WW2 is different than the ones we have now. We no longer need humans to do the fighting.

You are misunderstanding my opinion: I am not saying the people are bad, its that the government shouldnt entitle them to funds to do its dirty work.

In reality, its the governments fault.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2984 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:26 pm to
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Its welfare because we are helping the needy into thinking we are teaching them to fish when in reality we are sitting the majority down and feeding them fish anyways


What?
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:26 pm to
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Military is forced welfare. Most people who had alternative options choose not to go into military. Its the government's way to subsidize the less fortunate without calling it welfare but we know the truth.

Or because they join the military because they love this country and love the American people, and want to protect the free world. They want to protect ignorant people like you, so the first amendment stands strong. They do this so innocent lives, like the 9/11 victims (rest in peace), don't get murdered by some a-hole who hates freedom. They do this because they love every American citizen and legal alien in this country and will protect them to the end. It's not a welfare system you are out of your mind. Without the military we wouldn't be able to have this conversation today. They give up their freedoms so you can have your freedoms. What do you give up for them?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:26 pm to
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The military from WW2 is different than the ones we have now. We no longer need humans to do the fighting.




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You are misunderstanding my opinion: I am not saying the people are bad, its that the government shouldnt entitle them to funds to do its dirty work.



Entitle them funds? WTF are you even saying?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:27 pm to
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Not sure how you can ethically cut SS.

Easy - means test.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6583 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:28 pm to
9/11 was done by saudis and one user told me its ok not to have war with them because they provide oil


tell me about how that affects freedom and those who gave their lives for it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128758 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:28 pm to
Fareplay opines military spending is too high.

Fareplay advocates mechanizing entire military.

Checks out.
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:28 pm to
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You are misunderstanding my opinion: I am not saying the people are bad, its that the government shouldnt entitle them to funds to do its dirty work. In reality, its the governments fault.

That would be a more expensive type of war. Assuming you mean more drones and chemical warfare.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:28 pm to
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Easy - means test.


Ya, no. That becomes a straight up welfare program at that point. A pure transfer of wealth from one group to another.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:29 pm to
The military is far outweighed by the welfare state in this country.

Medicare, social security, Medicaid, make up the bulk of US spending
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:29 pm to
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Defending the US, US citizens, and their interests around the world is an enumerated duty of the federal government in the Constitution

I'd like to see that citation.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128758 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:29 pm to
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Ya, no. That becomes a straight up welfare program at that point. A pure transfer of wealth from one group to another.


That's why his socialist arse loves it.
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:31 pm to
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9/11 was done by saudis and one user told me its ok not to have war with them because they provide oil tell me about how that affects freedom and those who gave their lives for it.

It was done by al queda who is funded by the saudis (why trump wants to ban them). We went to war with those terrorist groups. Why the govt didn't do anything to the saudis is beyond my comprehension. That's not the military's fault though. They did their job ensuring your freedom.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:31 pm to
The problem is WHY is the defense budget so big? That is the lynch pin for the rest of the federal budget.
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:32 pm to
The military spending is more than SS. It's Medicare Medicaid military spending then SS
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:32 pm to
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The problem is WHY is the defense budget so big?


A bloated and completely dysfunctional acquisition process that is rife with abuse from defense contractors.

Also, a US government that likes to use the military as an easy button in global affairs.
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