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re: Why is military service only a big deal when a Republican is in office? Pics of brave Dems

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Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:40 pm to
Jimmy Carter was the last Democrat to serve as President to see active military service.
Posted by 56lsu
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:43 pm to
thank you
Posted by Dr Jekyll
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 5:31 pm to
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Jimmy Carter was the last Democrat to serve as President to see active military service.
I love how Trump is a draft dodger, but they never mention Clinton or Biden.

Obama never dodged a draft, but I have no doubt he would be Canada's problem now if there had been a draft.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 5:55 pm to
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Jesse Ventura


I’ll take “no-sides guys who always seem to white-knight for the left”, for $1,000, Alex.
Posted by Kirby59
Rocket City
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 6:05 pm to
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In Hillary's defense. She did write NASA a letter as a young girl. She was volunteering for astronaut service. NASA didn't exist yet, but we know she was not lying. Hillary wouldn't lie to us.


Also, she had Sir Edmund Hillary write her a deferral letter since she said she was named after him. So happens, he didn’t become famous for being the first to conquer Everest until after she was born. Again, she wouldn’t lie…
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 6:27 pm to
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She did write NASA a letter as a young girl. She was volunteering for astronaut service


Of course she did, she’s a damned moon-bat.
Posted by Dr Jekyll
Member since Mar 2026
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 6:52 pm to
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Again, she wouldn’t lie…

Everyone knows that Democrats never lie.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:20 pm to
Because we knew the democrats were corrupt. Then Trump ran on “no wars”, “save lives”, “save economy”. And now everyone with a brain realizes they’re all on the same side
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 8:02 pm to
Cause pubs are the ones that make a big deal out of it. You pubs kept posting the same meme when Obama was president. Showed all the Presidents who had served (which included Carter; and Bush learned to fly a decommisioned jet, but ya'll voted for him in spades and loved it when he went into Iraq). But now that your daddy Donna T has to face that music, you claim it's "too much; unfair!!!". And your daddy Donna T thinks the military is his Christmas present that he can show off to his friends and play with it, though he (and you) does like to insult current and former military when they disagree with him over something or if it simply suits his need to feed his ego. Tell me, does he like service members that aren't killed as much as he likes service members that aren't shot down or captured? Do tell.

Posted by Dr Jekyll
Member since Mar 2026
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 8:27 pm to
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Cause pubs are the ones that make a big deal out of it. You pubs kept posting the same meme when Obama was president. Showed all the Presidents who had served (which included Carter; and Bush learned to fly a decommisioned jet,

frick OBAMA! That stupid Kenyan can't operate an umbrella, much less fly a fighter jet.

Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 8:31 pm to
Decommissioned jet?
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 8:48 pm to
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They have no boundries about anything. Totally devoid of morals and integrity.

Exactly ... none. No morals, no integrity, no honor, no conscience, no grasp of reality .... none.
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 9:34 pm to
Donald Trump avoided the military draft 5 times, but it wasn't uncommon for young men from influential families to do so during the Vietnam War

By Mariana Alfaro

A young Donald Trump. Classmates.com
Dec 26, 2018, 1:11 PM ET

A young Donald Trump was seemingly in good health when he graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in 1968, as the United States was mired in one of the bloodiest years of the Vietnam War.


The 22-year-old — who was 6 feet 2 inches tall and an athlete — had already avoided the military draft four times in order to complete his college education.

But that spring, as he was set to graduate, he received a diagnosis that landed him a fifth draft deferment that would once again keep him out of Vietnam: bone spurs.


President Trump sat out the war and instead went on to join his father in business. The New York Times reported that the president, as a young man, said his "heel spurs," which are protrusions caused by calcium buildup on the heel bone, made him unfit for service.

Heel spurs can be cured by stretching, orthotics, or surgery. The president said he never got surgery for the condition.

“Over a period of time, it healed up,” he said, according to the Times.

The diagnosis came two years after Trump had been declared available for service and passed a physical exam.

On Wednesday, The Times reported that a Queens podiatrist who rented office space from Fred Trump, the president's father, might have given the president his diagnosis as a courtesy to his father.

Trump, however, wasn't the only young man who managed to avoid being sent to Vietnam because he belonged to an influential family who could afford him a college education — or a favorable medical diagnosis.

Draft deferment wasn't uncommon during the Vietnam era — but it frequently benefited a specific group of young men, particularly those who had the means to afford a college education or enough family influence to obtain a deferment.

Read more: Democratic senator calls Trump 'Cadet Bone Spurs' during fiery speech on the shutdown's impact on the military

David Cortright, a scholar and peace activist, found that more than half of the 27 million American men eligible to be drafted during the Vietnam era were deferred, exempted, or disqualified.

Young men could typically avoid the draft by being in college, getting married, having children, or being diagnosed with a medical condition that made them unable to serve.

According to a report by the American Economic Review, the college-enrollment rate among young American men rose — and then fell — abruptly between 1965 and 1975. According to the report, many have said these patterns resulted from draft deferments.

This led to the majority of those who served in Vietnam to come from low-income families, a point made in 2017 by the late Arizona Sen. John McCain, a Vietnam prisoner of war.

"One aspect of the conflict, by the way, that I will never ever countenance is that we drafted the lowest income level of America," McCain said in an interview. "And the highest income level found a doctor that would say that they had a bone spur. That is wrong. That is wrong. If we’re going to ask every American to serve, every American should serve."

Elliot Ackerman, an Iraq and Afghanistan veteran, wrote in a Time magazine article that "student deferments and various loopholes most often exclusively leveraged by the well-off, or influential, the brunt of that conflict fell to America's poorest, most marginalized citizens, creating a toxic social rift."

Notable politicians, such as Joe Biden and Dick Cheney, also received multiple draft deferments. Biden received draft deferments because of his college education. Once he was out of college, he received a deferment for an asthma condition.

Like Trump, Cheney received five draft deferments — four for college and one for being a father. According to The Washington Post, Cheney was classified as a 1-A by the Selective Service in 1965. This made him "available immediately for military service." Cheney got married soon after the classification.

Months later, Lyndon B. Johnson said draft calls would be doubled, meaning married men without children, previously exempted from the draft, could now be drafted, but married men with children were exempt. Soon after, Cheney was classified 3-A by the Selective Service because his wife was now pregnant with their first child.

Other young men didn't avoid the draft but had strings pulled to be assigned to noncombat zones, such as Germany and Korea, or other areas of the military.

Former President George W. Bush joined the Air National Guard, in Texas, which kept him stateside during the Vietnam War. Critics have long contended that Bush received his cushy role in the guard because commanding officers sought to curry the favor of Bush's father, the late President George H.W. Bush, who was an influential Texas congressman at the time.


Posted by Dr Jekyll
Member since Mar 2026
475 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 9:49 pm to
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Donald Trump avoided the military draft 5 times, but it wasn't uncommon for young men from influential families to do so during the Vietnam War

Biden did it 6 times.

Liberals were silent about military service.

The "lifeguard and captain of the football team" finally got a permanent deferment for his "asthma".
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2165 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 9:54 pm to
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Hillary and Harris never served either.


If you ever wanted to end all wars, start drafting women. Boomers, feminists, liberals, zionists, and neocons tend to view younger men as an expendable demographic. If you sent their precious daughters off to war too, you likely never see one happen.
Posted by Dr Jekyll
Member since Mar 2026
475 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 10:41 pm to
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If you ever wanted to end all wars, start drafting Boomers,

I would be willing to bet that a larger percentage of Boomers served in the the military than any generation other than the Silent and Greatest Generations that had to fight WWII.
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2165 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 10:57 pm to
You edited what I wrote. I said we should draft women so less people would be willing to send people off to war. We're obviously not going to start drafting 65 year old Boomers to go fight for Israel in Iran. Learn how to read.
Posted by Dr Jekyll
Member since Mar 2026
475 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 11:28 pm to
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You edited what I wrote. I said we should draft women so less people would be willing to send people off to war. We're obviously not going to start drafting 65 year old Boomers to go fight for Israel in Iran. .

Yes, I misread your post.
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