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re: Why is Mao’s Great Leap Forward seen as a failure
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:34 pm to ClemsonKitten
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:34 pm to ClemsonKitten
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:35 pm to ClemsonKitten
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Again, how many people died for capitalism and democracy in the west?
You first asked "How many died for the west to industrialize"...
So you are trying to compare deaths over 100+ years to the 20-50 million that occurred in China over 4 years.
You are fricking stupid.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:36 pm to ClemsonKitten
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How many people died for capitalism again?
You tell me. I’ve never seen a number of direct deaths caused by capitalist policies
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:37 pm to ClemsonKitten
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Slavery, Colonialism, forced regime changes all done under capitalistic systems.
Holy shite this is brilliant. None of that has happened under Communist rule?
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:38 pm to ClemsonKitten
Classic, mindless board-flaming.
Someone ban this alter clown.
Someone ban this alter clown.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:39 pm to ClemsonKitten
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We had a literal fricking civil war
How do you think Mao gained power?
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:43 pm to ClemsonKitten
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but people died and suffered for countries to industrialize too.
GLF was an attempt to industrialize through communism.
Communist way: Govt had poor central planning, forced people to abandon farming in favor of industry. Leads to famine and still have poor industry because a bunch of uneducated Chinese farmers don’t know shite about manufacturing anything. Millions die at no fault of their own because an oppressive govt thought they knew best.
Capitalist way: Farmers who like to farm continue to farm and produce food. Industrious men choose to pursue industry and build great things. Jobs are created lifting people out of poverty. Some jobs are dangerous. Some people tragically die from their own free choices pursuing their dreams or goals knowing the risks
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:45 pm to ClemsonKitten
10s of millions of your own country men starving to death is about the most obvious failure imaginable
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:45 pm to ClemsonKitten
Went off the deep end with the Cultural Revolution, so brutal was the Stalin Style purge that the Soviets wanted nothing to do with it
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:49 pm to ClemsonKitten
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Again, how many people died for capitalism and democracy in the west?
Well if we assume dying for it means a person died fighting for it or to protect it, and that all wars the United States was involved in protected our democracy and capitalist economy, then it’s 1.1 million over 250 years. Much better than the 40 million in 3 years from the Great Leap Forward. And that doesn’t count all the other millions who died from communism
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:51 pm to ClemsonKitten
If you think WW2 was fought on behalf of capitalism you truly are one stupid son of a bitch.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:54 pm to ClemsonKitten
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WW2 had 75-80 million deaths I think, so we can start from there
WW2 was started over capitalism? Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were not capitalist.
National Socialist German Workers Party
Yea, sounds totally capitalist
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:56 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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you think WW2 was fought on behalf of capitalism you truly are one stupid son of a bitch.
The capitalist and communists were on the same damn side.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:57 pm to ClemsonKitten
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We had a literal fricking civil war
In which the United States fought to end forced slave labor, which is not capitalism. After the United States won, those slaves got jobs with paying wages, which is capitalism.
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killed Latin Americans, Africans, and Native Americans
You’re conflating imperialism with capitalism
Posted on 12/27/25 at 4:04 pm to ClemsonKitten
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but people died and suffered for countries to industrialize too.
China's rapid industrialization was part of Mao's Five Year Plans.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 4:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
To be fair to the retarded OP, the bazillion dead people are basically a footnote on Mao's wiki page. I just checked.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 4:38 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Of the Cults of Personalities, Maoism is the hardest to understand. The bigger a failure he was, the stronger the cult.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 4:38 pm to ClemsonKitten
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It was literally a great reset to get the country aligned with the modern world. Millions died, but people died and suffered for countries to industrialize too.
No, No they didn't, No country sacrificed tens of millions of its citizens to industrialize. He starved 20 million people man. WTF is wrong with you?
Posted on 12/27/25 at 4:42 pm to ClemsonKitten
There are some dumb fricks on this site. OP should never post again.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 5:01 pm to ClemsonKitten
I’ll take you seriously, millions died. The country lost its intellectual class, they were stripped back to a post Iron Age world view but it took multiple generations, and absolute obedience and oppression to get there. The Industrial Revolution in the civilized world did not cost what Moa took from china
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