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re: Why is Manafort tampering with witnesses and obstructing justice if Trump will pardon him?

Posted on 6/15/18 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73596 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 3:43 pm to
The OIG report im not surprised you glossed over all of that
Posted by clooneyisgod
Member since Feb 2006
7838 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 3:46 pm to
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The OIG report im not surprised you glossed over all of that


I guess I missed the Russia is a with-hunt section of it
Posted by KoachKletus
Member since Jan 2015
1102 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 3:48 pm to
I find it humorously ironic that just two short years ago Manafort and cohorts were chanting "Lock her up".
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 3:56 pm to
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Why is Manafort tampering with witnesses and obstructing justice if Trump will pardon him?
Well today Trump said he didn't work for the campaign, and Manafort's issues are obviously something Trump can wants to distance himself from so a pardon may not be so likely.

Even then, if his the probability of pardon is less than 100% and aren't any less likely if he gets caught obstructing but the probability of getting off if not caught increases them the incentive would be to obstruct.

Regardless, since Trump is unpredictable, Manafort's basis for his behavior is only more difficult to infer, which was already almost impossible based on this alone.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 4:02 pm to
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I guess I missed the Russia is a with-hunt section of it
Besides being an entirely different investigation for an entirely different reason, the IG can’t release information pertinent to an ongoing criminal investigation.

By that logic, then there is also no evidence of all of those murders or bunch of other criminal acts the Clinton’s are accused of, with an even stronger level of “no evidence” since it was relayed to a Clinton investigation.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19699 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 4:13 pm to
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Why is Manafort tampering with witnesses and obstructing justice
he's probably not
Posted by clooneyisgod
Member since Feb 2006
7838 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 4:17 pm to
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Besides being an entirely different investigation for an entirely different reason, the IG can’t release information pertinent to an ongoing criminal investigation.


Hey I here you. SDVTiger is the one who said we learned from the IG report yesterday that the Russia investigation is a witch-hunt. The only reason I knew he was wrong is because he was totally wrong
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23707 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 4:20 pm to
Manafort is doing these things because he can't help himself?
Posted by clooneyisgod
Member since Feb 2006
7838 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 4:22 pm to
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he's probably not


Right. Just forget that the Judge clearly saw evidence that he did. I'm sure you have better, more accurate information.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9903 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 4:43 pm to
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Manafort is doing these things because he can't help himself?


Irrational freakout is my best guess, but dunno. Maybe trying to preserve his property by trying to get exonerated (would he forfeit it with a pardon, as it can be seen as an admission of guilt?).
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 4:50 pm to
Trump pardons Manafort any time soon and Manafort not only gets hit with state charges, he's also compelled to testify in Mueller’s case because he forfeits his 5th rights

Lose, lose right now
Paul can plan on sittin in jail for a while
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20382 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 4:52 pm to
Heard Rush say today there are no witnesses that were tampered with. Should be singular. He said Manafort is charged with tampering over a single 1 minute 27 second phone call.

This is what Rush said today.
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