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re: Why is abortion so important to the Left?

Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:51 pm to
its nearly impossible for a woman to work and raise young child.

if men were responsible for financing the child from 15th week until age 22 fewer people would care.
right now its a poverty sentence for many.

why not require male tubes tied at age 10.
only untie by mutual consent of married.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41682 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:07 pm to
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This is about as arrogant as it gets.
Arrogance is having a high opinion of one's self. I don't have such an opinion of myself. I believe what I believe because I believe it is the truth, not because I think that whatever favor I bless with my arbitrary approval must be right because of my approval of it.

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If it weren't for the constant proselytizing, most folks wouldn't give your god a second thought.
That's true to a degree. Mankind does a great job of taking their innate knowledge of God and suppressing it in unrighteousness, trading the worship of their creator for the worship of the creation, including themselves.

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And your need to assert your flavor of morality isn't compelling to anyone who isn't buying what you're selling
It's quite compelling for a lot of people. Most everyone knows that objective morality exists because we are moral creatures created by a moral God. However, only the Christian worldview provides a rationally consistent answer to the questions that people don't even know how to formulate. We know that objective "right" and "wrong" exist (we all live this way), yet have no foundation for it without the God that is the standard for what good is.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
4753 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:08 pm to
Murdering babies is their live sacrifices to their lord Satan. The left is pure evil.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71818 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:19 pm to
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Constrained? In what way/ways?


In thought, for starters. Discovery and freedom. All positives.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71818 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:21 pm to
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When you go against natural law, that which America was founded upon, you go against god whether you believe in god or not.



Natural law and religion are separate ideas. Religion tends to borrow some ideas from natural law, but that's where it ends.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28122 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:23 pm to
Killing kids, regardless of age, is grotesque and barbaric, and has no place in a civilized society
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61304 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:25 pm to
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The rejection of God is at the heart of it, even if those who support abortion don't overtly think in those terms
I don't agree with that, not in sweeping terms anyway.

The CEO at the hospital in Los Angeles where I worked is pro-choice and he is a devout Christian (Episcopalian).
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66572 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:25 pm to
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Also, if you think I'm wrong, tell me what you consider to be the most important issue to the Left.


Left women definitely. Being forced to keep an unwanted pregnancy is a pretty big deal.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71818 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:26 pm to
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Arrogance is having a high opinion of one's self.


Correct. And you're arrogant enough to believe the Christian myth. You think so highly of yourself that you think a deity willingly became human to make you feel better about the bad shite you've done.

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That's true to a degree. 


No. It's true. Period.

Christianity isn't sustainable without promoting fear and shame.

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It's quite compelling for a lot of people.


It isn't compelling to "anyone who isn't buying what you're selling." Fear and shame don't work on everyone.

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Most everyone knows that objective morality exists because we are moral creatures created by a moral God. 


There is no such thing as objective morality.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71818 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:27 pm to
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Killing kids, regardless of age, is grotesque and barbaric, and has no place in a civilized society


That's illegal.

I believe we're calling it murder these days.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28122 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:29 pm to
You bet. In fact, in most states, they even count the fetus as an additional victim of a homicide if its pregnant mother is slain.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71818 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:33 pm to
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You bet. In fact, in most states, they even count the fetus as an additional victim of a homicide if its pregnant mother is slain.


Most states also allow legal abortion of a fetus.

I don't know if our legal system is the box you want to stand on.
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3092 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:34 pm to
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The leadership loves it because it plays at the emotions of their voting base. It is THE easiest thing to get their voters motivated.


You should be getting a lot more upvotes for this one statement. Nailed it.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:34 pm to
Why is this issue important to so many people?

It should not be a government issue....it is a deep personal issue, IMO.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41682 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:35 pm to
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I don't agree with that, not in sweeping terms anyway.

The CEO at the hospital in Los Angeles where I worked is pro-choice and he is a devout Christian (Episcopalian).
There are many who claim the name of "Christian" who reject God's Word in favor of their sin. There are many homosexuals who claim to be Christian. Many serial adulterers, fornicators, thieves, etc. who reject what God has said so that their sins may be held onto. Atheism isn't the only form of rejection of God.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14159 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:35 pm to
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Why is abortion so important to the Left?


I'll email Herschel Walker and ask him.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28122 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:36 pm to
Not a box I want to stand on at all, you're right. There is a clear conflict there, I'm sure you'll agree.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14159 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:36 pm to
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It's their "unholy sacrament".


Herschel Walker concurs.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71818 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:37 pm to
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Not a box I want to stand on at all, you're right. There is a clear conflict there, I'm sure you'll agree.


Oh, absolutely. Honestly, it's just one reason on a long list of why I don't want the government's hands all over this.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14159 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:37 pm to
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I can't figure it out either. They are damn silly for it too. Literal blood lust for the unborn.


Herschel Walker directly financed the murder of a child.
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