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re: Why hasn't the NRA endorsed mental health screens for gun owners?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:29 am to Stringer Bell
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:29 am to Stringer Bell
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Why hasn't the NRA endorsed mental health screens for gun owners?
The parents of this psycho called the police and told them he was going crazy, the police failed yet again.
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:42 am to Strannix
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The parents of this psycho called the police and told them he was going crazy, the police failed yet again.
and yet the police are the only ones liberals want having guns. makes sense
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:43 am to Strannix
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The parents of this psycho called the police and told them he was going crazy, the police failed yet again.
So - once again - the push will be to take guns away from the people who didn't do this.
The cops can do virtually NOTHING to prevent, particularly violent, crime - about the best they can do is deter it by their presence/existence, and conduct investigations which lead to incarcerating the offenders. Once in a blue moon they actually stop or interrupt a crime in progress.
This is one of the main reasons why those people in disarmed areas are more heavily victimized by violent criminals - government claims a monopoly on force in those areas, yet cannot guarantee citizens' safety (because that's impossible and would be a lie, anyway) - so the criminals arm themselves (what do they care about the laws?), the police are armed, but the vast pool of citizen/victims aren't. Sounds like a great plan.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 7:44 am
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:44 am to Stringer Bell
Mental health screens before procreation. Mental health screens to vote. Mental health screens to drive a car. Mental health screens to get married. Mental health screens before running for public office.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:48 am to Stringer Bell
quote:Because they would lose half of their membership.
Why hasn't the NRA endorsed mental health screens for gun owners?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:01 am to Stringer Bell
quote:Would you support mental health screens for voting?
Why hasn't the NRA endorsed mental health screens for gun owners?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:03 am to mmcgrath
the new orleans shootings over the weekend...
were they NRA members?
were they NRA members?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:29 am to Stringer Bell
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Why hasn't the NRA endorsed screens that make sure the owner isn't a minority in a bad area of a big city?
I agree here. Why have they not just used basic statistics on gun crime?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:36 am to Stringer Bell
I do believe that the OP's question has merit. After all, I do believe that everyone can agree that we do not want "crazy" people who will hurt people to have access to firearms.
However, there are lots of people that have some sort of mental issue(s) that are not dangerous. I think the best argument against denying access to firearms to people with mental issues is that people who do have issues will choose not to seek medical attention for their mental issues if they fear they will lose their guns.
For example, a soldier returns from a combat zone with PTSD. I think everyone agrees that the soldier should receive the medical attention he/she may need. We do not want to risk people not going to a doctor because they fear they will be labeled as "crazy" and lose their guns.
Also remember this, most people that kill would not be considered "crazy" and most people considered "crazy" never hurt anyone.
However, there are lots of people that have some sort of mental issue(s) that are not dangerous. I think the best argument against denying access to firearms to people with mental issues is that people who do have issues will choose not to seek medical attention for their mental issues if they fear they will lose their guns.
For example, a soldier returns from a combat zone with PTSD. I think everyone agrees that the soldier should receive the medical attention he/she may need. We do not want to risk people not going to a doctor because they fear they will be labeled as "crazy" and lose their guns.
Also remember this, most people that kill would not be considered "crazy" and most people considered "crazy" never hurt anyone.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:37 am to SECMAN16
this elliot rodger kid WAS smart though. the police came and questioned him and found him to be just fine.
if they had searched his room though, he says they would have "ended everything"
if they had searched his room though, he says they would have "ended everything"
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:38 am to Stringer Bell
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I would think that an organization that prides itself in standing up for legal gun owners would make this a priority to help prevent the crazies from getting guns and harming people.
The NRA is about one thing and one thing only: selling guns. They are propagandists for gun manufacturers, nothing more.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:38 am to Stringer Bell
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It's misinterpreted by the USSC.
Please describe your legal background. TIA.Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:41 am to Stringer Bell
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It's misinterpreted by the USSC.
Deliberately. Judicial activism to America's detriment.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:44 am to Rex
Marching forward!
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:44 am to Rex
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The NRA is about one thing and one thing only: selling guns.
What guns does the NRA sell?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:45 am to Rex
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Judicial activism to America's detriment.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:46 am to Rex
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Deliberately. Judicial activism to America's detriment.
You're thinking of the ACA
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:46 am to Stringer Bell
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I would think that an organization that prides itself in standing up for legal gun owners would make this a priority to help prevent the crazies from getting guns and harming people.
What has changed?
Why all of a sudden do we find ourselves in a predicament with crazy and guns?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:47 am to Rex
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Judicial activism to America's detriment.
who should be allowed to own guns?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:53 am to Rex
quote:FIFY
Judicial activism to America's detriment, except when I agree with it
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