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re: Why don’t Muslims realize they need a reformation?

Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:51 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:51 am to
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The cult’s founder however was an evil piece of Shiite.

Arguably one of the worst human beings ever to walk the planet.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:51 am to
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attempting to course-correct the discussion back to the OP’s topic about


Which is usually the exact opposite of what you try to do...
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:52 am to
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So just to be clear: you think Mohammed was a good guy who is being misinterpreted by his followers?
If you understand Islam in the slightest, you know that Muhammad’s personal beliefs would be irrelevant, because the principle tenet of the religion is that Muhammad did not originate any concept found in the Qur’an, but that the words were simply dictated to him by God.

I am not saying that I personally accept this belief, only that I understand it.

From an historical perspective, was Muhammad a “good man” by today’s Western standards? No. He was simply a fairly-typical political leader in his time and place in history. Not much better or worse than dozens of his contemporaries. Simply more successful.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:53 am to
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If you understand Islam in the slightest, you know that Muhammad’s personal beliefs would be irrelevant,


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I am not saying that I personally accept this belief, only that I understand it.

Then you're retarded on top of being a hack.

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From an historical perspective, was Muhammad a “good man” by today’s Western standards?
He wasn't a good man THEN!

Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:54 am to
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We have to have that compassion for people,” he continued. “With homosexuals, it’s the same. Out of compassion, let’s get rid of them now.


I can’t not believe this shite is being said here in America, Muslims are not mentally adept to at least try and blend with with western cultures
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:55 am to
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And that problem is an uneducated mass of adherents who behave in a manner inconsistent with the teachings of its founding text.


We are still waiting to hear what it is about mo-hommed that makes you think it would be out of character for him to compel his sheep to kill in his name.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:56 am to
I should point out that now he's going with "ignore" as his tactic.

Like I need him to respond in order to continue to call his DailyKos self out
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:57 am to
Remember this is the same dick that loathes Trump.....
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:58 am to
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That is a shame, because a potential Muslim Reformation is an interesting topic.


Not really.

When Christians decided to kill in the name of religion, they pretty much had to contort to do it because literally NOTHING in Jesus' life, behavior, or teachings could be pointed to in support of such behavior.

"Reform" simply required people say, "maybe we ought to act more like Jesus".

Muslims have no such benefit. For them, "reform" means effectively rebuking the whole fricking reason their religion exists in the first place!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:59 am to
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Remember this is the same dick that loathes Trump.....

Well of course he does.

Most aficionados of the DailyKos and other lefty kook sites do!
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:59 am to
Hank you do understand that there is a “preview “ button next to the submit button....

Start using it so you don’t look like such a lying moron.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:59 am to
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We are still waiting to hear what it is about mo-hommed that makes you think it would be out of character for him to compel his sheep to kill in his name.
You have been waiting for an answer to a question that no one asked?

Odd.

He was a political leader in a tumultuous time and place in history. At the time of the Sword Verse, he and his followers were engaged in a war with neighboring groups. Of course he expected his followers to kill their enemies. What an odd question.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:01 am to
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Remember this is the same dick that loathes Trump.....

Oh, and that's actually a front.

If it were merely Trump hate that drove him, he wouldn't consistently try to steer pretty much ALL debate away from conservative viewpoints that existed long before Trump arrived on the political scene.

Hell. Shapiro doesn't like Trump but it didn't suddenly cause him to be anti-ALL Republican stuff.

Hank is simply someone in here trying to steer conversations in a way that suits him while pretending he isn't what he is.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:01 am to
But his followers found his personal beliefs
Irrelevant?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:02 am to
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At the time of the Sword Verse, he and his followers were engaged in a war with neighboring groups. Of course he expected his followers to kill their enemies. What an odd question.
Dear God this is almost Ilhan Omar "somebody did something" type of explanation.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:03 am to
Now replace Mohammed with the name “Adolph” and make the same excuses and arguments.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:06 am to
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I should point out that now he's going with "ignore" as his tactic.

Like I need him to respond in order to continue to call his DailyKos self out
I could tell you (truthfully) that I recall visiting the Daily Kos an entire two times in my life. You would question my veracity (usually in a polite manner) and Ooga would do the same, albeit in a much-less polite manner.

I cannot “prove” my history, and neither can you, rendering pointless a three page exchange that will amount to little more than “nanny nanny poo poo.”

So, yes, I will continue ignoring those references.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:07 am to
Perhaps I need to link Hank trying to slip thru a DailyKos writer's shite while doing:

1. Lying about the writer having said it MANY times over the years

2. Hank ORIGINALLY posting the quote as if it were a primary quote

3. Hank finally naming the writer but NOT sourcing him and saying there was "no reason" not to take the writer as honest re:Trump

4. Citing a writer who routinely writes for the DailyKos and is pretty much all-anti-Trump all the time.

5. Failing to respond to the obvious point that the writer "remembered" a quote from a fricking DEAD MAN who died six years earlier...........and the quote supposedly happened HUNDREDS of times.............yet..........the fricking anti-Trump full time writer didn't recall it during the campaign........didn't recall it immediately after Trump was elected..........but A YEAR frickING LATER!!!!

And THAT is what Hank wants to call being the voice of reason on the board and not being a hack!
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:08 am to
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When Christians decided to kill in the name of religion, they pretty much had to contort to do it because literally NOTHING in Jesus' life, behavior, or teachings could be pointed to in support of such behavior.
No really the genesis of The Reformation.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:11 am to
Again, you are a liar.
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