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Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:43 am to Zach
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Yeah, that's why I keep getting Maxine Waters confused with Ted Cruz.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:43 am to Landmass
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I'm sorry that the truth hurts
Oh, nothing you said hurts. You're just identifying yourself as a non thinker.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:44 am to Landmass
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The President is a voice of influence
It's like you've been asleep since 2016. Have you not noticed the # of nevertrumpers in the swamp on both the GOP and Dem side?
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and does in fact sign bills into law after it passes the legislature.
Name me the Obamacare repeal law that has made its way through the legislature to his desk.
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. The only dismantling that he has done was to pull out the only damn good thing that was in there in the first place; the ban on preexisting condition exemptions. Obamacare should be GONE.
Well that is complete and utter horseshite. Enjoy your swamp.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:46 am to GumboPot
quote:I've offered solutions on this board ad nauseam. Remember, I've posted here for 14 years.
TX Tiger
You never offer solutions to the uniparty problem.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:52 am to Landmass
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:53 am to TX Tiger
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I've offered solutions on this board ad nauseam. Remember, I've posted here for 14 years.
Are these solutions too complicated and too long to repost?
I can't tell you how many times I've repeated the same thing on this board.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:06 am to GumboPot
quote:Yes, and they take real action on the part of the citizens, which isn't going to happen in a society that is far too dumbed-down, lazy and narcissistic as ours. So there's really no point in going through it with every post.
I've offered solutions on this board ad nauseam. Remember, I've posted here for 14 years.
Are these solutions too complicated and too long to repost?
quote:I've been reprimanded more than once for saying the same things over and over again.
I can't tell you how many times I've repeated the same thing on this board.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:11 am to Landmass
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I'm sorry that the truth hurts.
What truth?
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and was a registered Democrat most of his life?
Yes i know that Trump has been a registered Dem all his life. All NYC ppl are
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You know that Trump voted for Obama twice
Ummmm many people did an realized their mistake.
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You actually believe that, all of a sudden, this man becomes the conservative "outsider?"
Trump has been saying the same things since the 80s. Do some research. Get educated
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He's been playing politics his whole life.
Hes a NY Billionaire so no shite sherlock
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:28 am to TX Tiger
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Yes, and they take real action on the part of the citizens, which isn't going to happen in a society that is far too dumbed-down, lazy and narcissistic as ours. So there's really no point in going through it with every post.
Right, so you do recognize reality, but you still advocate splitting the republican party so the socialist democrats can take over.
If you know your "solutions" can and will never happen in reality, then what is your actual agenda?
Am I wrong for suspecting that it may be simply to split the republican party, so the socialist democrats can take over?
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:30 am to troyt37
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Yes, and they take real action on the part of the citizens, which isn't going to happen in a society that is far too dumbed-down, lazy and narcissistic as ours. So there's really no point in going through it with every post.
Right, so you do recognize reality, but you still advocate splitting the republican party so the socialist democrats can take over.
quote:Truth
If you know your "solutions" can and will never happen in reality, then what is your actual agenda?
quote:Yes. You obviously have me confused with someone ignorant enough to continue to play the juvenile establishment game of left vs. right.
Am I wrong for suspecting that it may be simply to split the republican party, so the socialist democrats can take over?
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 10:31 am
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:44 am to TX Tiger
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Truth
The only truth here is that the only thing third party solutions provide is hot air, at best. At worst, they provide the destruction of the country via socialist democrat control ala Venezuela.
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Yes. You obviously have me confused with someone ignorant enough to continue to play the juvenile establishment game of left vs. right.
Whatever floats your boat, as long as you realize that the reality of your position means that whatever incredibly miniscule influence your philosophy creates only furthers the agenda of socialist democrats.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:45 am to troyt37
The GOP needs to go extinct and be replaced by a real conservative party, not people that talk a lot and don't move the needle at all right. The Dems are already infighting between more moderate liberals and the socialists/communists.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:49 am to troyt37
quote:Who said any different?
Truth
The only truth here is that the only thing third party solutions provide is hot air, at best. At worst, they provide the destruction of the country via socialist democrat control ala Venezuela.
quote:Please explain to me how recognizing that the establishment controls both parties furthers the agenda of socialist democrats.
Yes. You obviously have me confused with someone ignorant enough to continue to play the juvenile establishment game of left vs. right.
Whatever floats your boat, as long as you realize that the reality of your position means that whatever incredibly miniscule influence your philosophy creates only furthers the agenda of socialist democrats.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:53 am to Landmass
quote:The establishment that controls both parties needs to go extinct. Until that happens it doesn't matter if there's 2 or 102 parties.
The GOP needs to go extinct
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:53 am to Landmass
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The GOP needs to go extinct and be replaced by a real conservative party, not people that talk a lot and don't move the needle at all right.
Couldn't agree more. But the reality is, we have to work with what we have to work with. Good is not the enemy of perfect. We conservatives can all go hard line and abandon an admittedly shitty GOP, but to what end?
How many federal elections are we willing to sacrifice? How bad will it have to get before a voting majority of conservatives can elect the people needed to save the country? Will there be a country left to save by that time?
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:59 am to troyt37
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Will there be a country left to save by that time?
No, there won't be. That's what Landmass doesn't understand.
The current members of the GOP congress used to be conservatives when they first sought office. Then the tendency is to move center once in DC. The culture has an effect on their brains.
If we abolish the GOP and replace it with the 'New Conservative GOP' what makes anyone think they will not succumb to the same brainwashing.
It's a disease that happens to all career politicians. That's why we like Trump. He's not a career politician. I guarantee you that if Trump went straight from college to state rep of NY, then state senate, then US House, then US Senate he would be just like Chuck Schuemer.
The GOP doesn't need to be abolished. The career people in the GOP need to be replaced by younger conservatives. And those younger conservatives need to be replaced 20 years down the road.
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 11:02 am
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:00 am to troyt37
quote:Yes, keep doing the same thing over and over and over again and expect a different result. That's always a good plan.
But the reality is, we have to work with what we have to work with. Good is not the enemy of perfect. We conservatives can all go hard line and abandon an admittedly shitty GOP, but to what end?
How many federal elections are we willing to sacrifice? How bad will it have to get before a voting majority of conservatives can elect the people needed to save the country? Will there be a country left to save by that time?
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:05 am to Zach
Term limits. Honestly, I thought Trump would be talking that by now. I guess it's a bit of putting the cart before the horse. If he can't do anything about the corrupt bureaucracy (swamp) term limits will only make the swamp a legion of unelected and unaccountable rulers.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:13 am to TX Tiger
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Please explain to me how recognizing that the establishment controls both parties furthers the agenda of socialist democrats.
That's your straw man, hammer that SOB!
Advocating third party solutions to the detriment of the only party that possibly stands in the way of socialist democrat destruction? Yeah, that furthers their agenda.
I'm not aware of your "solutions", but judging by your posts, I have to assume they don't include the only real opposition to the socialist democrats, which is the republican party. Reality.
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