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re: Why do we need to pass bills for spending? It’s so inefficient
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:19 am to Meauxjeaux
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:19 am to Meauxjeaux
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We have a behemoth structure around spending for what purpose?
To see to it that each state is properly represented. There's no way that you're actually this stupid.
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Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:24 am to Indefatigable
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Who would you give that authority to?
The people or entities that need to spend it. There is a mountainous bureaucracy that is just bloated and in the way. It’s unsustainable to continue the current process.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:26 am to Indefatigable
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Hint, appropriating that money is a big step in the process.
This is exactly my point! How fricking ridiculous is the entire process of appropriating in modern spending? It’s a drag on everything. Do away with it!
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:27 am to Tantal
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There's no way that you're actually this stupid.
Eh. He’s pretty stupid.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:28 am to Tantal
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To see to it that each state is properly represented.
Represented for what?
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:31 am to Meauxjeaux
In theory, giving the power to Congress is a good thing since they directly represent the people. In reality, they stopped representing us decades ago (at best) and now serve the highest bidders.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:48 am to Meauxjeaux
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This is exactly my point! How fricking ridiculous is the entire process of appropriating in modern spending? It’s a drag on everything. Do away with it!
Yea you aren’t thinking this through. No matter what words you use, someone somewhere will always have to actually authorize and spend the money. Who decides in your new reality?
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:57 am to Indefatigable
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Who decides in your new reality?
Those that need it. Why all the bs middleman stuff?
Posted on 8/8/22 at 9:07 am to Penrod
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I have four kids between 30 and 35, and all of them save money.
He’s talking about the generation coming of age right now. They are fricked even though they don’t know it yet. Most millennials are fricked too but the crafty ones will survive
Posted on 8/8/22 at 9:43 am to Meauxjeaux
Handing blank checks to unelected piss goblins that are never held accountable.. that WOULD be a more efficient way to bankrupt the nation.
What's missing from our system isn't efficiency, it's not supposed to be efficient. What's missing is honesty, transparency and voters that pay attention and hold the House accountable.
What's missing from our system isn't efficiency, it's not supposed to be efficient. What's missing is honesty, transparency and voters that pay attention and hold the House accountable.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 9:58 am to Meauxjeaux
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Those that need it. Why all the bs middleman stuff?
Who decides what is needed?
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:10 am to Meauxjeaux
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Kinda and also others. Like, say, Ecuador needs $2 Billion for coastal river control. Why the whole red tape fiasco to do that? Just do it.
Thats the problem. Some random frick in State would happily write a $2B check to Equidor. At least now it is some minor hassle to launder American taxpayer money.
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 10:11 am
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:35 am to Meauxjeaux
quote:Right.
Why do we need to pass bills for spending? It’s so inefficient
It’s outdated.
Scrap the entire political wrangling.
Update the Constitution.
Did it occur to you to check how well that worked under Stalin, Hitler, or Mussolini?
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:00 am to Meauxjeaux
quote:That their citizens' money is being spent wisely. If a President didn't need to go through Congress, he could tax everyone, then just spend the money in the states necessary for his re-election. Basically, CA, TX, NY, and FL would run the entire country. What you're suggesting could never happen. The smaller states would never vote to change the Constitution against their own interests.
Represented for what?
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:07 am to Meauxjeaux
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Update the Constitution.
Unfortunately, it already has been "updated" repeatedly -- only to the eventual full detriment of our Nation (see 1862, "Civil War". Then 1871, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Inc.) After that all bets were off.
Recall when an enraged Dubya Bush once reminded a patriot what HE thought of US the Constitution? "Meh. It's just a GD piece of paper".
On BOTH issues of the US status as a "Corporation" (as of 1871), AND Dubya's contempt of the USCON and actual statement, *some* will always deny the inconvenient truths and utter the same thing: "YOU KOOKY CONSPIRACY THEORISTS!!"
Yet...Anyone who has been paying a lick of attention to the American politics (especially since Donald Trump became President AND during his post-re-election hijacking and aftermath) KNOWS with 100% certainty that the US Constitution is a vandalized, subverted, selectively enforced "Piece of Paper" after all.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:10 am to Indefatigable
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Those that need it. Why all the bs middleman stuff?
Who decides what is needed?
Those that need it, duh.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:12 am to Tantal
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Represented for what?
That their citizens' money is being spent wisely.
Is that actually happening?
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:14 am to Indefatigable
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Congress has to appropriate the money. There’s no way around them having to pass legislation to spend money.
You mean there ARE NO secret Congressional slush funds? NO Black Op budgets? NO Presidential EO decisions that create end-arounds? NO $$-Laundering? NO 10% "Big Guy" negotiations that circumvent Congress?
Oooo-kay.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:17 am to Meauxjeaux
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Why the whole red tape fiasco to do that? Just do it.
Kind of already is the Dems' spending credo and MO.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:30 am to Meauxjeaux
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Is that actually happening?
No, but a 2nd term President could tax everyone at 100% with no oversight if not for Congress. What you arguing for is a single elected dictator with no checks or balances. In fact, your premise is so idiotic that I feel that I'm bring trolled.
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