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Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:57 pm to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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Out of curiousity, can anyone debunk the specifics of global warming on here?
Read up on manipulated climate data. There's tons of sources.
*It's not global warming anymore...or global cooling. It's climate change!
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:18 pm to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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Okay so you started it off by claiming fake news. And even if reports have been faked, doesn't mean its all BS theory.
No. Totally wrong. I shall now assume you are a 3rd grader. Pay close attention:
'Fake News' is when CNN reports something that is not true. Scientists falsifying data is not Fake News.
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D. says everything you need to know about your point of view. You imply that thinking reducing car emissions will help the environment is stupid.
No. You completely misunderstand the internal links. 'D' is a non factor since A,B, and C are false. One never gets to D unless one is a moron.
Once you get to D there is a gigantic leap in logic to assume that humans can change global temperature through car emissions.
Even then, you do not understand the difference between 'GLOBAL TEMPS' which is what we are talking about... and 'HELPING THE ENVIRONMENT' which is what you stupidly posted.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:22 pm to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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explain to me in scientific terms why its garbage?
Basically, it's scientific garbage because it doesn't follow scientific methodology.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:26 pm to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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D. says everything you need to know about your point of view. You imply that thinking reducing car emissions will help the environment is stupid.
Do you believe "climate change" is a serious issue facing mankind? If so, what are you basing that fear on?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:32 pm to TigersInParis
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Now, I'm sure some paragon of anti-science right wing thought will respond to this by saying, "HURR DURR, GLOBAL WARMIN CANT CAWZ WINTER STORMS, LULZ." But that's just the kind of reductionist, overly simple thinking that fools use to reject facts and expertise that make them uncomfortable.
That only exists in your mind to help assure you that you're not full of shite...which, of course, you are.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:34 pm to browl
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Just like the fracking is bad slurpers. MYTH!!!!!! Why do they lie and opress muh 'merica??!!
People who believe that fracking causes earthquakes or poisons the water tables ect are even worse than the AGW derps.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:13 pm to TrueTiger
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Science at some point, requires a leap of faith.
Really?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:15 pm to Errerrerrwere
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The greenhouse effect violates the second law of thermodynamics.
No it doesn't.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:24 pm to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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Out of curiousity, can anyone debunk the specifics of global warming on here?
Not just call it fake news and mention 'libtards' but actually explain to me in scientific terms why its garbage?
I'll ask you the same question I always ask the climate change missionaries...
So what? What is the answer? What do we do? How do we do it? What will be the impact of said action?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 3:10 pm to gthog61
quote:Nor do we hear from scientists who have blown the whistle and have quit the "movement" because it's built on lies. For example, the former head of The National Hurricane Center, who quit because they were trying to get him to falsely claim that "climate change" was causing more hurricanes.
I am surprised our esteemed media never questions who pays the climate "scientists" who come up with all the "proof".
Or any one of the litany of other disenchanted scientists.
Also, the "cause" went from being CFC's in the 80's to all carbon, so they could claim that everyone is guilty to some degree. "You're all guilty polluters. Therefore, you need government to regulate every aspect of your lives."
Posted on 12/9/17 at 3:11 pm to Parmen
It's rebranded to climate change during the winter.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 3:15 pm to Parmen
It's more accurate. Yes the climate has changed over time. The effort is to understand how mans activities are influencing that change.
To suggest it isn't possible is ignorant. If pollution can have disastrous consequences on a local scale over a short period of time, it's certainly plausible it could have an impact on a global scale over longer periods of time.
To suggest it isn't possible is ignorant. If pollution can have disastrous consequences on a local scale over a short period of time, it's certainly plausible it could have an impact on a global scale over longer periods of time.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 3:18 pm to Dale51
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There's tons of sources.
And you can't link a single one?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 3:33 pm to TrueTiger
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Science at some point, requires a leap of faith.
It has that in common with religion.
Also like Religion they both want your money,
Posted on 12/9/17 at 3:37 pm to BobBoucher
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To suggest it isn't possible is ignorant. If pollution can have disastrous consequences on a local scale over a short period of time, it's certainly plausible it could have an impact on a global scale over longer periods of time.
CO 2 is not pollution. It's a vital gas for life to exist.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 3:41 pm to Zach
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CO 2 is not pollution. It's a vital gas for life to exist.
There are lots of things vital for life to exist. Any one of them in excess can potentially change the climate.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 3:44 pm to BobBoucher
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There are lots of things vital for life to exist. Any one of them in excess can potentially change the climate.
Really? How much Oxygen would be too much for life to exist? If Oxygen reached that level how could we stop oxygen from happening?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 3:55 pm to Zach
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Really? How much Oxygen would be too much for life to exist? If Oxygen reached that level how could we stop oxygen from happening?
I said excess of anything can potentially affect the climate, I didnt say anything about "too much for life".
But since you said oxygen, we can start there.
Oxygen scatters light. More oxygen equals less sunlight reaching the surface, which in turn affects the surface temp and amount of water evaporating. Less oxygen means more sunlight reaches the surface. Has opposite effects.
So it's likely that there's a limit where excess oxygen would impact the climate.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 12/9/17 at 4:03 pm to skrayper
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Really?
Really.
When you read about some new scientific discovery that you
neither observed for yourself, nor participated in the experiments, or studies,
you exercise faith that the results were scientifically done, observed, and reported when you choose to believe them.
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