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Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:06 am to Salmon
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Correct. It has always been my #1 criticism of Trump from the very beginning.
To me, if the #1 thing you don't like about a candidate is that they say mean things, you may well have found a nearly flawless candidate.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:06 am to ShortyRob
people looking for stuff to be offended by
I guess they maybe don't have jobs and real stuff to do?
bored?
I guess they maybe don't have jobs and real stuff to do?
bored?
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:08 am to ShortyRob
There are several reasons why his approval is 38% right now. Stuff like this will only push it lower. Sad!
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:08 am to ShortyRob
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To me, if the #1 thing you don't like about a candidate is that they say mean things, you may well have found a nearly flawless candidate.
as I said in the other thread, I realized a while ago that I'm never going to agree with the POTUS on policies a majority of the time due to my beliefs and the way our system is set up
so I decided I would judge mostly off leadership skills
Trump has zero in that regard
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:10 am to Salmon
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It has always been my #1 criticism of Trump from the very beginning.
bullshite. So you want to imply you are..and have been, a Trump supporter? If you weren't a supporter, you would most likely not have found him putting his foot in his mouth something to criticize. What were numbers 2 and 3 criticisms?
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:11 am to Salmon
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Trump has zero in that regard
I don't think you are seeing the big picture here.
Yes he says dumb things.
But he also has illegal immigration down just with rhetoric alone.
He has our military being feared again.
These are examples of leadership that Trump is doing right.
Most of leadership is just putting the right people in place and knowing when to let others go.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:11 am to ShortyRob
They're not alarmed or pissed, they're just jumping on the next thing to attack him on since Muh Russians has practically collapsed.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:12 am to Dale51
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If you weren't a supporter, you would most likely not have found him putting his foot in his mouth something to criticize.
...what?
quote:
What were numbers 2 and 3 criticisms?
#2 is his big government policies
#3 is lack of experience in foreign policy and military
anything else?
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:13 am to Salmon
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as I said in the other thread, I realized a while ago that I'm never going to agree with the POTUS on policies a majority of the time due to my beliefs and the way our system is set up so I decided I would judge mostly off leadership skills
I agree with SOME of what he wants to accomplish.
But, if I find out that he starts using government agencies to attack my neighbors, I'll immediately convert to opposing him vehemently.
That makes me better than about 99% of the liberals who have ever graced this board or in the press or who are prominent.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:14 am to SidewalkDawg
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I don't think you are seeing the big picture here. Yes he says dumb things. But he also has illegal immigration down just with rhetoric alone. He has our military being feared again. These are examples of leadership that Trump is doing right. Most of leadership is just putting the right people in place and knowing when to let others go.
This is correct.
A lot of very effective leaders in history have been people who had no filter.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:14 am to ShortyRob
Agreed. If Moron Joe and Mika can dish it they should be able to take it.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:14 am to ShortyRob
How does CNN affect you? Show me where they touched you
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:15 am to Salmon
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as was your retort
How so? Providing context to a confused knee jerk response is the opposite of a Pavlovian response...but you agree that my claim of the comment to me was Pavlovian. Can you describe what you identified as Pavlovian in his reply to me?
Thanks.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:16 am to Dale51
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How so?
"but Obama" retorts are the go to responses for Trump criticisms
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:17 am to ShortyRob
He is the president of the United States of America. He should be held to a higher standard. I grew up thinking the president was a man of great power and grace. I didn't care for W and he could sound like a jackass sometimes but the man treated people with respect and dignity no matter what they said about him in the press. Trump's policy's do not bother me to be honest with you i want to see if they will actually work to help America. The tweeting will not stop and in the end it will make his agenda and presidency a dumpster fire.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:17 am to JuiceTerry
You're projecting again.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:18 am to Salmon
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"but Obama" retorts are the go to responses for Trump criticisms
They were dumb when Democrats were doing it with Bush, and they are dumb now with Obama.
Obama is gone, let him go.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:19 am to Yak
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And yours was whataboutism at best
Why, yes..yes it was. What about consistency of judgement to be exact.
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