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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:18 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:18 pm to Big Scrub TX
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They literally received reparations from the US government.
I would be fine with giving $40k to anyone who can prove that they were directly harmed by a governmental policy or government backed loan on a racial basis. If they have received over $100k in other governmental aid or subsidies, then I think they’re probably ahead.
In theory.
In practice, everyone who submitted a claim would get a payout.
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:18 pm to the808bass
quote:Of course. That's the definition of the word. I think that what you mention is bad.
So you would agree that charging men more for car insurance is sexist.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:18 pm to xiv
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Institutional racism is far worse than the two examples you've given, of course
Why?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:20 pm to xiv
Is charging people with type 1 diabetes more for health insurance a form of institutional genetic discrimination?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:21 pm to xiv
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I think that what you mention is bad.
You are aware it is standard practice as well as “bad?”
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:22 pm to xiv
Would you say there's institutional racism against whites?
Elizabeth Warren sure seemed to think so.
Elizabeth Warren sure seemed to think so.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:22 pm to xiv
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Blacks would be better off if they'd been treated as well as Asians.
Blacks would be better off if they would act like Asians. Rather straight forward.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:23 pm to BoyHowdy
Because communism.
Without "institutional racism" they can't tie unrelated past events to present individual failures.
It's bullshite.
Without "institutional racism" they can't tie unrelated past events to present individual failures.
It's bullshite.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:23 pm to BoyHowdy
I imagine many slaveowners often made sure to remind their chattel that it was a big scary world out there and they'd never make it without them
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:24 pm to BoyHowdy
It is something they made up because there isnt nearly the amount of real racism going around. There is racism and there are racist people. But, not enough to where the majority of minorities could play the victim card and move their lives foward. We just have it so east as a society that people have to have something to create a "struggle".
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:27 pm to Zach
quote:Ageism is applied equally among all races, sexes, religions, etc. Time/age works the exact same for all of us equally.
Why?
Selective service policies subject men to risks to which women are not equally subjected, but since the vast majority of our legislators throughout history have been men, this makes it much different from the institutional racism of redlining.
Whereas selective service policies are enacted by those in power at the expense of those who are more or less scheduled to be in power, redlining was a series of acts executed by those in power at the expense of people who were never intended to even be allowed to pursue said power.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:28 pm to the808bass
quote:Yes. Not interested in further whataboutisms.
You are aware it is standard practice as well as “bad?”
The idea of institutional racism is what's rustling the jimmies, so let's talk about that or call it a day.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:32 pm to xiv
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Whereas selective service policies are enacted by those in power at the expense of those who are more or less scheduled to be in power, redlining was a series of acts executed by those in power at the expense of people who were never intended to even be allowed to pursue said power.
Power has nothing to do with it. It's quantifiable behavior. If black people paid back their loans like whites and Asians there would be no red lining. Banks aren't racist. They want to make money.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:34 pm to the808bass
quote:The one part you leave out is how much harder it is for a 70 year old to prove direct harm than it was for a Japanese-American to simply point to their name on a list. (Again, perhaps somewhat ironically, I do not think the JAs should have received reparations.) And this is through no fault of their own. Nearly the entire black lower middle class in the 40s, 50s and 60s was intentionally excluded from the benefits of government-supported home ownership. And this is before we even get into things like Social Security and GI Bill exclusion.
I would be fine with giving $40k to anyone who can prove that they were directly harmed by a governmental policy or government backed loan on a racial basis. If they have received over $100k in other governmental aid or subsidies, then I think they’re probably ahead.
In theory.
What paperwork or "proof" exactly would meet your standard for a black sharecropper from Mississippi who suffered a dishonest landlord and the constant over-hanging threat of county-and-state-supported racial exclusion and violence, decided to risk everything by fleeing north, and then having been intentionally denied access to mortgage credit despite having a good job and being a good citizen?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:34 pm to BoyHowdy
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Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
Because they want an excuse for affirmative action and other forms of special treatment.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:37 pm to Zach
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If black people paid back their loans like whites and Asians there would be no red lining.
I don't think you know what redlining means.... They wouldn't loan to blacks in certain areas in order to explicitly segregate areas. Since you can't force people to move, it's take decades if not generations for this injustice to be unraveled.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:37 pm to Big Scrub TX
The alternate is just puffery. “I’m black ergo I was harmed.” Thats also racism. It’s just a palatable kind for the left.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:38 pm to BoyHowdy
Because discreet incidents of racism are hard to show as they're infrequent.
Institutional racism is to racism what rape culture is to rape.
Institutional racism is to racism what rape culture is to rape.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:39 pm to BoyHowdy
Because it allows them to change(force) the entire system to their liking.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:41 pm to the808bass
quote:This isn't a response to my specific question. It's like you seem to think just admitting that decades of persecution transpired means that all of a sudden we will be on the hook.
The alternate is just puffery. “I’m black ergo I was harmed.” Thats also racism. It’s just a palatable kind for the left.
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