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Big Scrub TX
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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What’s your solution?
Solution to what? The wealth gap? I don't know.

I'm usually reduced to saying I would accept a complete cold turkey ending to the War on Drugs as a sufficient response to all of these complaints.

Excluding economics and just focusing on the national spirit/soul, I would also settle for the populace just having a less bullshitety version of its own (pretty recent) national history being the norm.


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DemonKA3268
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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The name your parents give you, not so much... until your'e old enough to change it.


I agree with you on this. It's not the kids fault. It's no different than the kids named Braeden Brantley or Trapper by white parents.


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Big Scrub TX
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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Yep, that did happen. It was horrible. Are certain people oppressed today? As bad as you want to believe it is, it isn't. You fall in the same line people who can't see the forest for the trees. You're still making excuses.
Of course I don't think it's nearly as bad today. I'm pretty solidly in the Coleman Hughes camp on this stuff.


Zach
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I don't think you know what redlining means.... They wouldn't loan to blacks in certain areas in order to explicitly segregate areas. Since you can't force people to move, it's take decades if not generations for this injustice to be unraveled.


That makes no sense at all. Segregation is illegal. It doesn't require generations to unravel.


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Big Scrub TX
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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I was able to go to LSU, a college they would have never been allowed to attend when they could have.
It's always helpful to remember that LSU football didn't have a black player until 1972! We were so damned racist, we didn't want blacks playing football! Let that sink in.


DemonKA3268
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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Of course I don't think it's nearly as bad today


It seems some don't share you sentiment. The past is but the past. It can never be changed, only learned from. Hopefully


tigerinDC09
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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Sounds like if you can do it, anyone should be able to do it. No matter the skin tone.


The argument is no longer that it can't be done.

The argument is the level of difficulty... especially in relation to those with privilege.


udtiger
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
Because you don't have to actually prove anything. Only show snippets of possible evidence that may show some racism, then assert it is ingrained but is so subtle that it's just become the accepted norm and something needs to be done about it even though they can't demonstrate it actually exists.

















































sort of like climate change.


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DemonKA3268
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We were so damned racist, we didn't want blacks playing football! Let that sink in.


We were? I wasn't alive before 72. What does what you just stated have to do with the present?


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Jbird
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
Muh privilege!


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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
Your success story is good to read. You are a very good example of how doing things the right way can open doors.

I am not denying that your parents and grandparents had institutional barriers, many impossible to overcome. It makes me very angry and upset that our nation’s govt either directly played a role in the oppression or stood by and did nothing to stop it.

But this is a multifaceted issue. It’s worthy of examination to see if some modern day disparities between races can be attributed to culture and behavior.


tigerinDC09
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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Of course I don't think it's nearly as bad today


It seems some don't share you sentiment.


Those people are bad faith trolls, you shouldn't engage with them. As I said already, we've made tremendous progress and we should be proud... but we can also point out and be able to criticize where we fall short.


DemonKA3268
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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The argument is no longer that it can't be done. The argument is the level of difficulty... especially in relation to those with privilege.


Here we go, the old privilege excuse. Did you have privilege? You seemed to make it.

Can it be more difficult for some, absolutely. Can it still be done though? Yes, it depends on how bad someone wants it. Those that succeed don't make excuses.


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93and99
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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The argument is the level of difficulty... especially in relation to those with privilege.




What privilege ? My dad being responsible and being in his children's lives?

That's a privilege ?


DemonKA3268
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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As I said already, we've made tremendous progress and we should be proud... but we can also point out and be able to criticize where we fall short.


Agree with you and yes, we should be able to. No person or society will ever be perfect, no matter how bad someone wants it to be.


BoyHowdy
Member since Aug 2019
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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The argument is the level of difficulty... especially in relation to those with privilege.

Privilege is a copout.
I couldnt get any kind of education assistance because my parents made too much money and they wouldnt help me. Life isnt fair, play the cards you're dealt and do the best you can with what you have which it looks like you have so I salute you for it.


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xiv
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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If black people paid back their loans like whites and Asians there would be no red lining. Banks aren't racist. They want to make money.
What you’re describing is exactly institutional racism.


xiv
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Ageism has zero to do with race. Doesn't matter is races are equally affected. Race had nothing to do with it.
Take it up with the person who brought it up, then.


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tigerinDC09
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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Your success story is good to read. You are a very good example of how doing things the right way can open doors.

I am not denying that your parents and grandparents had institutional barriers, many impossible to overcome. It makes me very angry and upset that our nation’s govt either directly played a role in the oppression or stood by and did nothing to stop it.




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But this is a multifaceted issue. It’s worthy of examination to see if some modern day disparities between races can be attributed to culture and behavior.


I agree, it's never just one thing.... Black culture has it's problems, I know , I've lived it. I've seen it's best and it's worst.

Some things I've experienced like our "crabs in the barrel" mentality can be traced directly back to the psychological imprints of slavery. It's a well documented connection.

But some things, are just inexcusable and inexplicable.
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Jbird
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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What you’re describing is exactly institutional racism.



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