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tigerinDC09
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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“I’m black ergo I was harmed.” Thats also racism. It’s just a palatable kind for the left.


Who's arguing the alternative? One only needs to look at the generational outflows of state sponsored racism in my grandparent's lifetime.


i am dan
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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Just seems like this admits racism right up front


Same reason whites shouldn't name their kids Bubba or Marshall Dean or other redneck names.


the808bass
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
No. I’m using the Pigford case settlement as a precursor to what would happen.



tigerinDC09
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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Same reason whites shouldn't name their kids Bubba or Marshall Dean or other redneck names.


Either way it's the textbook definition of prejudicial treatment.... The whataboutism in this thread fails constantly on this topic.


SeeeeK
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
They are 1 trick ponies.

it's all they got


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i am dan
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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Ageism is applied equally among all races, sexes, religions, etc. Time/age works the exact same for all of us equally. 


Not sure what you're actually arguing, but ageism is wrong and can lead to lawsuits as easy as any other form of descrimination.

You make it sound like ageism is okay as long as all races are equally impacted.

Ageism has zero to do with race. Doesn't matter is races are equally affected. Race had nothing to do with it.


i am dan
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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The idea of institutional racism is what's rustling the jimmies, so let's talk about that or call it a day.


Affirmative action is the only true form of institutional racism.


HailHailtoMichigan!
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
The issue is when people use the plight of black grandparents to explain why modern day disparities in INCOME exist. That’s where the connection is a bit fuzzy

Income and wealth are not the same thing.

Present day disparities in income are generally not caused by parental wealth differences, studies show.

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But what explains such income gaps? Usually, it’s factors other than racism. Wealth inheritance is a poor proxy for income mobility — which is the statistic we truly care about. Most Americans don’t get rich because grandma was rich; most Americans get rich because they take advantage of individual opportunities. A widely-cited study from researchers at Stanford, Harvard and the Census Bureau, which was supposed to show that inheritance was a key factor in income mobility according to members of the media, showed precisely the opposite: wealth level was not the chief cause of continuing disparity.


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DemonKA3268
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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The whataboutism in this thread fails constantly on this topic.


But just in this thread only, right?

It's a shame some of you people can't rise up from what happened. It's not even close to what some like to portray it as being bad today. It's a convenient excuse to keep certain people voting for those who do nothing for them. Period


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Big Scrub TX
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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No. I’m using the Pigford case settlement as a precursor to what would happen.
If the point you are trying to belabor is that it would be messy and inundated with dishonest claims, then yes, that just seems abundantly obvious. Of course that would seem to pale in comparison to the severity of the decades of oppression.


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the808bass
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
What’s your solution?


DemonKA3268
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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Of course that would seem to pale in comparison to the severity of the decades of oppression.


Yep, that did happen. It was horrible. Are certain people oppressed today? As bad as you want to believe it is, it isn't. You fall in the same line people who can't see the forest for the trees. You're still making excuses.


i am dan
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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Either way it's the textbook definition of prejudicial treatment.... The whataboutism in this thread fails constantly on this topic.


No, it a choice anf everyone knows what could come of it.

Face tattoos are similar.

Good luck making everyone non-prejudges. Will never happen.

Human nature.


tigerinDC09
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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The issue is when people use the plight of black grandparents to explain why modern day disparities in INCOME exist. That’s where the connection is a bit fuzzy

Income and wealth are not the same thing.

Present day disparities in income are generally not caused by parental wealth differences, studies show.


Let's be clear, I've been blessed to make probably 2-3 times annual salary of what my grandparents made.... I'm the exception and not the rule... Things had to go just right for me and they did... Ie no one got sick or died in my childhood years.

With the help of things like TOPS and Pell grants (on top of earned scholarships), I was able to go to LSU, a college they would have never been allowed to attend when they could have.


i am dan
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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Either way it's the textbook definition of prejudicial treatment.... The whataboutism in this thread fails constantly on this topic.


When you see the namez D'Sharvon does a white kid pop to mind?

Didn't think so. You prejudge too.


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Jbird
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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I'm the exception and not the rule..


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tigerinDC09
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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No, it a choice anf everyone knows what could come of it.

Face tattoos are similar.


No, Face tattoos are a personal choice.

The name your parents give you, not so much... until your'e old enough to change it.


DemonKA3268
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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With the help of things like TOPS and Pell grants (on top of earned scholarships), I was able to go to LSU, a college they would have never been allowed to attend when they could have.


Sounds like if you can do it, anyone should be able to do it. No matter the skin tone. Bottom line up front, a lot of people in this country are simply lazy and aren't willing to do what it takes to be successful. Then they start trying to point out reasons why they aren't successful. All they have to do is look in the mirror.

As far as your second point, I agree with that. I agree that things were really bad but for anyone to say things are that bad today is not only asinine but absurd.


Music_City_Tiger
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
There is no institutional racism. Of course some people harbor racist feelings. But, until we can read people's minds there ain't a whole lot we can do about it.


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Flats
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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
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Things had to go just right for me and they did... Ie no one got sick or died in my childhood years.


Do you think there are no white children that applies to? Or light brown, or dark brown, or any other color description we use for identity politics?


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