re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?

Someone.... ANYONE! Show me where institutional racism exists in any business practices.

If you can show me legit institutional racism, then I invite you to join me in beginning a business venture. We could make serious money simply by catering to those they oppress.

The Free Market cares only about profits not your race.

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Solid points, though the derisives weren't necessary. The OP question applies to today's society though. Not that of the 1960's. If we were still living in the US of a half-century ago, harping on institutional racism would not only be warranted, it would be obligatory. But we aren't living in that era. In this era, our present era, the accusations of racism broadly directed at nonracist swaths of the populace are not helpful ... at all. In fact, as those accusations increasingly target groups, not for any offensive behavior, but rather based on skin color alone, they themselves are decidedly racist. It is an irony immediately evident to the accused, and not easily forgotten. Most of your post was respondent to racial economics. So let's discuss that. The economics of out-of-wedlock births, and single-parent households are not racist. The economics of truancy are not racist. The economics of delinquency and crime are not racist. The impact of economic dependency or substance addiction is not racist. Yet those are statistically important elements when one is sorting out reasons for social outcomes of individuals or societal subset. Inefficient or self-destructive behavior has no inherent anchor in skin color. But it does root in cultural self-expectation, and it is furthered by concomitant expectations of cultures –– aka "the soft bigotry of low expectations". Rationalizing underperformance based upon minimally or non-existent "institutional racism" plays to both detriments.

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End of discussion.

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We can debate if the great society was meant to help or keep blacks on the plantation. Institutional racism would come in if blacks were left with no alternative. No one has been forced to be on these programs long term, much less for generations.

In 1969 births to unwed mothers for blacks was a horrific 25%. Today whites have that rate. I know of white kids skipping the shotgun wedding because it cheaper to let Uncle Sam pay for the birth. We need to look at what incentives we are promoting. It’s not all about race.

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Sounds like you don’t know what one means by “institutional racism.” I recommend looking the term up and reading for ~10 minutes at least. You’re having a conversation about something else.

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So between 1939 and 1960 they made gains and were catching up to white families.

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Yes. This point went entirely over the head of Texrider. The pains of slavery and racism prior to the civil rights movement were improving, and at drastic rates. Then LBJ fricked up all progress and reversed that progress. The entire point being that government intervention will not ever rid the pains of slavery and that there has to be a cultural change for the majority of blacks that are still in poverty to escape it. We know this is possible for non-whites in this country to be succesful inspite of racism, so blacks need to mimic the behaviors of those people who did.

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And with a straight face, I presume

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You don’t think affirmative action is institutional racism?

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You don’t think affirmative action is institutional racism?

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That’s what you think I found wrong with that statement?

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if you'd like to actually be clear, you could state what you don't like about his comment, then maybe you could even try to make a point of your own.

i'd be interested to hear how AF isn't IR.

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Instead of lecture me, why not read the thread? This has been covered.

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is he supposed to read your mind?

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Nah. The thread will do.

They rely on “racism” because it is their ace in the hole. If and when they feel as though their argument is not winning, they say racism! Even if it doesn’t apply. It’s childish and reeks of a lack of personal accountability. We all live in America, there are no barriers for anyone to do anything. This is nothing more that institutionalized victim mentality.

It’s in the thread. Go find it if it means so much to you.

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