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re: Why do liberals get so mad when someone exposes child sex trafficking?

Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:09 pm to
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Well, I want to say domestic but, I have a feeling the former feeds the latter.

Just FYI, not really.

Domestic is primarily runaways from shitty situation and foster care.

International is primarily in Asia, Africa, and Eastern Europe and involves organized crime and more initial force.

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So, I choose International please and thank you.


I'll quote what I posted today in a sister thread on the M/TV board:

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The only way we can fight sex trafficking globally on any scale is to trade more with these countries and hope a higher SES decreases the organized crime filling the void of black markets.

If we give the countries aid, we all know what shithole 3rd world countries, warlords, and organized criminal elements will do with it.

Clearly we can't accept all the putative victims as immigrants.

Physically sending military-intel assets to these countries would only create a temporary response at best. It would be a constant game of whackamole that probably wouldn't work, and anywhere it did work would return to normal once we left. We would also have to rely on corrupt government officials. It would be a lot like tje US occupation of Afghanistan (and we all know that was a waste of money) mixed with the War on Drugs (and we all know that was a waste of money).

This is an economic problem and the solution has to be economic in kind.

*ETA: that's internationally. Domestically it's a different story (But still largely economic, ulatimately)


I included the final misspelling in the quote for authenticity's sake
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:16 pm to
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They’re not picketing at the doors but you had idiots trying to prevent people from seeing the movie this weekend.

Do you have anything other than TikTok or Patriot media with details on this?
Posted by jnethe1
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:25 pm to
Because that’s who they are. Demented freaks
Posted by tigerfan 64
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:27 pm to
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We didn't stretch it. The fact that Epstein's client list is still a secret even though there's a woman sitting in prison for trafficking tells you everything you need to know.

And if the epstein list contained high profile republican names, it would be widely known.
Posted by LSUconvert
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:32 pm to
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They dont have a penis.


There are plenty of men who dont have penises.
Posted by LookSquirrel
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:43 pm to
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Domestic is primarily runaways from shitty situation and foster care.


I see where you are coming from and I strongly disagree. No accounting for the thousands upon thousands of young and very young minors coming across our southern border.

That tells me all I need to understand what you claim to know.

Outa here. Go at it.
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:44 pm to
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Accept what I say 100% without question or evidence or else you are defending Pedos
that is not what I have said - spell check got me on my last response - you are being willfully obtuse

You are defending pedos, or at a minimum, defending policies that make it easier for them to molest children

Own it
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:47 pm to
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Anyone who engaged in premarital sexual activity should face the death penalty.


Yeah because that’s a reasonable response.

Tell me this. If two people don’t have sex with anyone until they are married what are the chances of the following:

Catching a STD
A baby out of wedlock
The “need” for an abortion
The marriage being a success
Them actually knowing each other going into the marriage

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:49 pm to
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No accounting for the thousands upon thousands of young and very young minors coming across our southern border.

That tells me all I need to understand what you claim to know.

So you rely on something I doubt you have any legitimate evidence for then slam down a proclamation that you can judge my comment, which does have legitimate evidence.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:50 pm to
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that is not what I have said - spell check got me on my last response - you are being willfully obtuse

You claimed I was "harassing" you because I sincerely asked for actual evidence.

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You are defending pedos,

And then following it up with dishonesty

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or at a minimum, defending policies that make it easier for them to molest children

All because I simply asked for evidence

Again, Accept what I say 100% without question or evidence or else you are defending Pedos
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:52 pm to
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My response was an assumption that you were amplifying one particular avenue of trafficking (the border) in order to push your preferred government policy unrelated to trafficking directly (the border wall).


I’m going to assume that you know that this is the classic definition of a “straw man” argument - making assumptions and then arguing the point you assume was made…

Anyway, I do support a wall, but I have not pushed that aspect in this discussion, I have been speaking of “border security” in a broader sense ( but yes, I do support walls/fencing or whatever)

This discussion has reached the point of being a pissing contest

Biden policies are bad and make it easier for groomers to rape children - that is also a blanket statement that encompasses more than just the border shitshow
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:53 pm to
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Tell me this. If two people don’t have sex with anyone until they are married what are the chances of the following:

Catching a STD
A baby out of wedlock
The “need” for an abortion

0

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The marriage being a success
Them actually knowing each other going into the marriage

I'm not sure on the former but there is likely data out there. From what I saw, only 5% of women getting married were virgins, so the data may end up unreliable b/c it is so rate today

The latter is not deterinable.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:54 pm to
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Demented freaks



Pedos give freaks a bad name. I generally like outcasts, but with standards.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:56 pm to
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I’m going to assume that you know that this is the classic definition of a “straw man” argument

You have it wrong.

I am assessing your argument, with an assumption. What you quoted is my opinion/analysis, not a summary of your argument.

A straw man would be me re-wording your argument, which I didn't do.

I made 2 assumptions. One requires data to verify and the other is psychological (so your honesty is the only way to determine it). We can clear up the psychological now, though. Do you want a border wall with Mexico? If yes, then my assumption was correct.

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Anyway, I do support a wall,

Well there we go. My assumption was correct.

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This discussion has reached the point of being a pissing contest

I'm just asking questions. Specifically about evidence to support your claims.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:46 pm to
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In Haiti, during the rebuilding phase where a lot of charities went over, countless children went missing.


Thanks to people like Laura Silsby who was arrested there, attempting to smuggle 33 children out of Haiti & had been previously intercepted by police acting on a tip, stopping her attempt to remove 40 children from the country.
Shortly after her arrest, her originally retained lawyer & his wife were arrested in connection with an international smuggling ring accused of trafficking women and minors from Central America and Haiti.
As I'm sure most people know, The Clinton Foundation was there & one of Bill Clinton’s first acts as special envoy for the United Nations in Haiti was an intervention on Silsby's behalf.
Silsby went on to become VP of Marketing for AlertSense that works with the Federal Government on FEMA’s Integrated Public Alert & Warning System (IPAWS). One of IPAWS functions is to issue Amber Alerts for missing children.

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/clinton-silsby-trafficking-scandal-media-attempted-ignorecover/


And don't forget about reporter Monica Petersen who traveled to Haiti to investigate the DynCorp/Clinton Foundation ties to the human trafficking and was Arkancided.

ESCAPE FROM HAITI: The Murder of Monica Petersen
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7236 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:49 pm to
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Why do liberals get so mad when someone exposes child sex trafficking?


Bc they support it. They're all sick.
Posted by BluestateGeorgia
Member since Jul 2023
110 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:29 pm to
Thanks for answering.

Some Ron supporters keep saying those people will vote for Ron but not Trump.

They haven't figured out that's a poor recruiting tool.
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:42 pm to
You are straight up being an idiot - you accused me of straw man arguments while actually making straw man arguments

Plus, you are minimizing a very serious problem
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:43 pm to
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while actually making straw man arguments

How is asking for evidence of your claims a "Strawman" argument?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:44 pm to
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Well there we go. My assumption was correct.
so?

It was never brought up or part of the discussion - I’m done, you have shown your colors - as disgusting as that may be, it is what it is

Have fun defending the indefensible
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