re: Why do churches get so worked up over gays?

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Jesse

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I hope you mean Gemstone

You twisted and spun yourself around my point because you know I am right

You CHOOSE who you have sex with


Kleptomaniac’s are tempted to steal things all the time they were born that way, but they choose to steal or not to steal

Pyromaniacs, nympho maniacs, etc.

you choose whether or not to act on desires you have

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Gays want their sin to be declared not a sin. Drunks, adulterers, liars, murderers, etc. accept that their behavior is sinful and that they need to repent and ask forgiveness in order to restore their relationship with their creator. Church is for sinners, it is full of them.

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The trap that this board often falls into, is that y'all believe the words of a few militant ones, represent everyone on that "side".

Yes, there are a few militant ones who do want to chance societal norms and want things to be declared "not a sin".

But most gay christians just want to be left alone, they want to be able to worship without harrassment.

My aunt became my uncle. At my grandmother's funeral (my uncle's mother), the priest took the opportunity to take him on the side and berate him for living in sin. WTF was the point of that? My uncle isn't even really religions, he just wanted to mourn his mother in peace.

I know a number of gay catholics, who just want to go to church, learn, sing, pray, work at the church fair, etc. They aren't asking for dogma to change. They just don't want to feel unwelcome in the house of the Lord.

I also know one gay catholic who is actively trying to force the Church to say being gay isn't a sin. We aren't friends anymore because he told me he can't be friend with someone who isn't "woke".

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Other way around.

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False.

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they just want you to mind your own business.

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That’s just not true in today’s times, they demand that you openly accept and praise their lifestyle choices

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You think its a sin - so what keep it to yourself

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Adultery - same thing? Keep it to yourself?

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but you can't choose who you're sexually attracted to

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That’s not 100% factual either I will agree however that for some the path of least resistance is taken

Wow just wow.

Where I attend church pastors are not rich at all. Same middle class as me. The tv rich mega church type pastor is very likely not following scripture and certainly at some level would be sinning. This is not to say that earning money is sinful. This is to say that church goals financially should be to spread the gospel and help those in need. Not make pastors rich.

The gay topic has never been preached about alone at my church. It is only in the context of all other sexual sins and even that is not often brought up. I attend a conservative bible believing church. I would guess that the gay topic most people find pretty touchy since they either believe scripture about it and struggle with friends and family or that they simply don't like that teaching either and wish it wasn't laid out in scripture.

Same sex attracted people welcome in church? Yes of course. Just like a drunkard or a porn watcher or a shoplifter or a tax cheat.

I dont know of any church that is a bible believing church that affirms the gay lifestyle as their only deviation from traditional Christianity. 2000 years compared to 20. Every church that goes down that road ends up in a scriputal abyss where there are no beliefs about anything. The lutheran ELCA is a prime example in my neck of the woods. Gay ok, no bodily resurrection ok, universalism ok, abortion ok, whole bible up for grabs. Just a mess. No sense in attending unless you are a SJW or LGBT that needs affirmation. Certainly a far far ways away from what the apostles believed and did in the New Testament after the resurrection.

Modern culture is pushing the LGBT thing hard at us. Everywhere. It has become it's own religion. Rapidly expanding (obama was not pro gay marriage 1st term 9 years ago)

Again sin is sin. We all have our issues. Do you identify as LGBT with no pause and ask for celebration or do you identify as a Christian trying to be more Christ like?

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Maybe 3% of them.

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I think you're responding to an absolutist argument with an absolutist argument.

You're right that plenty of Christians don't want to beat down the doors and be praised for their lifestyle. They want to go to church and not hide their life and worship like anyone else.

But plenty do not want that, and in all likelihood it is far more than 3%.

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That’s not 100% factual either

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It is a fact that you don't pick who you're sexually attracted to. You can pick anyone to be with but that doesn't mean you're physically attracted to them.