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re: Why didn't we use the South Korean approach?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:56 pm to madhatterman
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:56 pm to madhatterman
quote:NO!
The key is smart testing
The KEY is test AVAILABILITY.
We have no availability because while every other lab in the world was lining up the best reagent resources attainable, the CDC told the POTUS "We have this." Then the CDC screwed the pooch. With no remaining reagent or swabs, the US was hosed
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:58 pm to madhatterman
I thought it was about flattening the curve so we don’t overwhelm our hospitals. Seems to me we have been successful at that. Plenty of hospital capacity
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:58 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Then you are 100% wrong.
You have no clue as to WTF you are talking about.
In fact we recommended the "Korean method" to SoKo.
We still haven't implemented wide spread contact tracing or approached the level of testing per positive test of South Korea yet you are saying we gave South Korea the blueprint for their own method. If this is true, it makes it even worse.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:08 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
The KEY is test AVAILABILITY.
Texas, Florida and California have tested at a rate of over 10 per positive test, over 1 million tests combined for less than 100,000 positive cases. New York has completed 730,000 tests with over 270,000 positive results. I would argue that the tests that were available were misappropriated and were conducted without adequate planning.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:11 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:
Did they incentivize hospitals to classify every death as Covid?
People keep saying this on here but no one has ever explained why the government would be interest in doing this or how this actually. So I'm asking you, how are hospitals incentivized to classify deaths as COVID?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:12 pm to madhatterman
Because:
1) many states have a healthcare system that's just slightly better than a West African nation
2) too many Americans are processed food eating fatties
3) a large chunk of the population has no health insurance and a 100 bucks to their name
Slightly different.
1) many states have a healthcare system that's just slightly better than a West African nation
2) too many Americans are processed food eating fatties
3) a large chunk of the population has no health insurance and a 100 bucks to their name
Slightly different.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:31 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
In fact
In fact, we recommended the "Korean method" to SoKo.
How about a link on that?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:33 pm to madhatterman
Sounds like the blame resides with the governor then.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:48 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
I agree. The governor should have commandeered all the misappropriated supplies nation-wide and sent them to the state of New York and New Jersey.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:50 pm to madhatterman
quote:
I agree. The governor should have commandeered all the misappropriated supplies nation-wide and sent them to the state of New York and New Jersey.
so he could have that much extra shite that they ended up not needing?
There were no "misappropriated supplies". They sure as shite didn't deprive NY of anything
Your hero governor wanted to steal ventilators from counties that actually planned ahead.
typical leftist redistributionist scum
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:54 pm to gthog61
quote:
There were no "misappropriated supplies". They sure as shite didn't deprive NY of anything
I would challenge you to find any place on Earth with a lower ratio of testing per case than New York and New Jersey. And then I would challenge you to find any place on Earth with more deaths per capita.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:55 pm to madhatterman
Oh, I don’t know, maybe because of this:
Posted on 4/24/20 at 7:12 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:I thought that faulty reagents were the problem.
We have no availability because while every other lab in the world was lining up the best reagent resources attainable, the CDC told the POTUS "We have this." Then the CDC screwed the pooch. With no remaining reagent or swabs, the US was hosed
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:17 am to madhatterman
quote:That may be. Test availability in general was the overarching problem though. Especially early on when we ended up with virtually none deployed d/t horrid mismanagement by the CDC. At a time when community spread could have been curtailed, the CDC left us with no tests.
I would argue that the tests that were available were misappropriated and were conducted without adequate planning.
So we started from a huge hole. Less than two weeks ago the US was still at only 1/2 the tests per capita compared with much of Europe. We've closed the gap. We still lag, but by nowhere near past margins. Meanwhile, our total test count, now >5m, is more than double any other country.
My sense is the test trajectory continues to improve, but is still not optimal. Availability remains a problem.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:28 am to madhatterman
quote:
Seoul has a larger population than New York City.
South Korea has 240 deaths, New York City has over 11,000.
Have you ever seen a fat South Korean? How about a black South Korean? How about a Jewish South Korean?
I rest my case.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:31 am to madhatterman
quote:
would challenge you to find any place on Earth with a lower ratio of testing per case than New York and New Jersey. And then I would challenge you to find any place on Earth with more deaths per capita.
Sounds like NY/NJ are the ones who are incompetent dipshits, not the rest of America.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 5:14 am to texridder
quote:They were.
I thought that faulty reagents were the problem.
Along with test design.
But those flaws were not recognized for weeks, not until early Feb.
By that time, the rest of the world had secured remaining RNA reagent supply, along with swabs, etc. Our domestic labs, which the CDC had initially deliberately excluded, were tasked to rebuild an inventory from nearly ground zero.
As the virus spread, we had virtually no functional kits.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 5:36 am to Jinglebob
quote:NYC is the problem. It accounts for 22% of all US cases.
Sounds like NY/NJ are the ones who are incompetent dipshits, not the rest of America.
Yet in NYC CV19 death per capita is 10X greater than the rest of the US
NYC ~1370dpm
Rest of the US ~125dpm
Posted on 4/25/20 at 5:44 am to madhatterman
350 million people, 50 semi-indepdent states spread out over an entire continent, 5,000 miles of borders, many "diversity" areas, ya why didn't we just do what South Korea did!
Posted on 4/25/20 at 5:46 am to madhatterman
We have 50 states, they have one.
It's a little like herding cats over here.
But that is by design, and that's OK. We are more interested in mitigating the risk of tyrants than pandemics. It's just different cultures.
It's a little like herding cats over here.
But that is by design, and that's OK. We are more interested in mitigating the risk of tyrants than pandemics. It's just different cultures.
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