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Why Cant We Just Default And Get Rid Of The Entitlement Programs

Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
1921 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:26 pm
Our Entitlement spending (Food Stamps, Welfare, Section 8, SNAP, Medicaid, Etc) is the sole reason for the debt to continue to grow with no end in sight. Why does the Federal Government, and Democrats even care to raise taxes if income is 1 and spending is 5? We should just default, and force our hand to cut entitlement programs. Would suck for the Blue base, but maybe they'll finally have to live like the red base. It is appalling the bottom 40 percent of earners in this country pay ZERO income taxes, but live off the top 60% hard earned money!
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44866 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:28 pm to
I'm fine with having some kind of safety net for disabled adults. Every single freeloader program needs to be cut off today.

I've been doing financial crime investigations for several years now. I'm of the belief that about 85% of disability/unemployment payments are fraudulent.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 8:30 pm
Posted by ShakeandBake
Member since Aug 2019
1161 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:44 pm to
Agree that we need to redo entitlement programs but we also have so many relying on those programs now that you’d see complete chaos.

Want to see SHTF? Have those cash benefits not show up. Urban areas would turn into disasters overnight. God help anyone stuck in a large city.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5713 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

I'm fine with having some kind of safety net for disabled adults.


Otherwise preciously known as charity and organized through the church. You even got a tax break for donating to the source of such safety nets. Not so much anymore.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60032 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:47 pm to
The funny thing about entitlement programs is that the lifers in hose programs don't understand that they aren't ENTITLED to a damned thing other than the opportunity to knuckle down and make something of themselves with the latitude that brig free in America provides .
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11375 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:49 pm to
My dad is a disability lawyer and he told me by law the judges award disability to half the cases they see regardless of merit.
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
1921 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:52 pm to
It must be done though to balance the budget. The only way to do that is to cut massive entitlement programs. Now were even funding Illegal Aliens by the thousands. At some point the camels back will break.
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
5569 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:54 pm to
You maybe right, but good luck with that. They want more give aways not less.
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Euthanasia, USA
Member since Jan 2009
7175 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

We should just default, and force our hand to cut entitlement programs.



Tough one.

If our currency becomes de-valued, what will Chyna think about the useless $$ we owe them?

Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7298 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:06 pm to
I swear I recall reading or hearing recently that one of the reasons for welfare was to keep the poor from rising up like the Russian proletariat did and overthrow the government.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:13 pm to
That is different from the last two years how?

Tell hardworking people they won’t be charged if they defend themselves and a lot of the rioters may decide they won’t risk it.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57272 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:30 pm to
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The only way to do that is to cut massive entitlement programs.
Go campaign on ending Social Security and see how many votes you get.

Until the American voters desire to ween off government's teet... there will be no cutting going on. Everyone wants to blame politicians for this, but it's "us" the US voter that has caused this.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57272 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Our Entitlement spending (Food Stamps, Welfare, Section 8, SNAP, Medicaid, Etc) is the sole reason for the debt to continue to grow with no end in sight.
Social security, medicare, defense, and interest on the debt are the biggest reasons. Medicaid is is up there, tho.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14829 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

the bottom 40 percent of earners in this country pay ZERO income taxes, but live off the top 60% hard earned money!


Oh child, flip that around.

The bottom sixth percent paid minimal income taxes and live off the top 40 percent.

It's like the classic 80/20 rule.

And it's just going to get worse. Because the democrats don't feel the rich pay enough.
Posted by HabaneroBuck
Up a ways.
Member since Oct 2020
1359 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:37 pm to
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Go campaign on ending Social Security and see how many votes you get.


Of course, the corporate media uses this as the very first threat about what will take place if our leaders don't agree to continue the deficit spending into oblivion. That and cutting military pay, of course.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8657 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:45 pm to
We need to clean house on these programs but we can't get rid of everything.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15630 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:09 pm to
In school I taught kids that deposits must exceed withdrawals at all times. If mentally ill teenagers can learn this then why can't our elected officials grasp the concept?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38286 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:09 pm to
Name one entitlement program that they ever took back.

Just one…
Posted by thejuiceisloose
UNO Fan
Member since Nov 2018
4175 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:10 pm to
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Would suck for the Blue base, but maybe they'll finally have to live like the red base.


Out of the top ten states most dependent on the gov. 8 of those states voted for Trump in 2020

https://sipanews.fiu.edu/2021/03/24/2021s-most-least-federally-dependent-states/
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:16 pm to
“Federal dependency” is calculated off total expenditures in the state, NOT handouts.

And a lot of military bases are in red states in part because blue states don’t want them.
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