re: Why can't the US have univeral healtcare with the current budget?

They could fund anything if they really wanted to. There are things that have to happen before that could happen with single payor and whatnot, but the point is it will never happen because no politician will ever fight for it really. And if they actually did implement it the government would screw it up so badly that we would be wishing for our shitty health insurance $10K deductible back.

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I imagine you're not religious, correct? Religion talks an awful lot about helping others. You seem pretty bitter and selfish. Maybe you should go to church sometime, it would help you.

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I hate when folks like you, say things like this. Yes, Jesus does tell us to care for our fellow man, but he does not force us to do that, we should do it voluntarily. Having money forceable taken to put into inefficient government spending plans wasn't what we were called to do when taking care of our fellow man. I know where the money goes when I tithe, nobody can say where money goes when you give it to the government. Also, you are using the term religion incorrectly. I don't follow a religion; I follow the Father and have a relationship with him.

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I imagine you're not religious, correct? Religion talks an awful lot about helping others.

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Do you understand the basics of behaviorism? If you did, you would realize that all of these collective poverty programs aren't helping others.

I'm not talking about all the programs, I'm talking about one. The other programs don't work because they are easily exploited and too broad.

It isn’t true. Have I read the Bible, absolutely, and learn something new every time I dive into it. I hate your take because there is more than your straw man bs, where we are either for throwing our money away to the government or finding other ways to help without the government. You say you are a Christian right, I’ll use your line of reasoning. If you are pro life, can we assume you adopt and foster kids needing as I do? I care about my fellow man so I donate to numerous kids throughout the world thru Compassion International. Do you care about people around the world because using your line of reasoning you don’t if you don’t do what I prefer. No, I worked in healthcare for decades in health care resource planning. I’d rather the government entirely remove themselves from health care delivery. I’m for Church based Co Ops, concierge care etc. Unlike you, I was exposed to the sausage making when it comes to where the money goes in health care while at the VA, I’ve seen the waste, so,no, when you pay taxes in, you don’t know where your money is going. Thru my church we have an annual Vision meeting to determine how we spend our tithes, we get monthly spending reports to ensure complete transparency.

I got my first job at 15. Baskin-Robbins in Rice Village on University Blvd. Houston, TX.

Worked through middle school all the way through college.

Still working today.

Pay your way or move out of the way. I'm tired of working and paying for the lazy people.

No free rides!

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He thinks you're a dick

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Says the guy calling himself a Christian

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One thing I never see mentioned is that the US spends more of it's GDP on healthcare than any of those countries.

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That is because big pharma and their lobbyists own the majority of the politicians. Also if you dig deeper into these countries health care systems it will probably show that if you are completely healthy universal healthcare is great. Just don’t have issues that would require you to have procedures done. From what I’ve read the wait time for a procedure is a long wait

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Have you ever run a business before? It's kind of obvious that answer is no, but feel free to answer.

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Clearly it's profit. So, why would on think having the government being the source of profit would reduce prices?

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There are how many healthcare corporations and private hospitals in the U.S.?

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Not nearly as many as their used to be. That should tell you something.

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You think some gun manufacturer winning an exclusive bid on sidearm production is similar to someone being able to go to any hospital in the country and get their broken arm fixed?

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No. But it's a nice straw man you got there.

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t all depends on how its set up.

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Show us a track record of successful government "set ups" that Congress has run.

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You're the one trying to hold what I'm saying up to a perfect standard. I'm simply acknowledging that we don't have perfect now, and likely never will.

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Nope. Just some simple arguments of merit would do.

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If you look at just the dollars and cents of it right now it isn't going to make much sense,

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There is nothing else. What do you think a government with $33 Trillion in debt do for healthcare? Make it in unlimited available?

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what about the benefits of a healthier population down the road if implemented correctly?

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Nice presumption. But the most common causes of death In this country are obesity related conditions. Something that requires zero medcical intervention. Try again.