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re: Why can’t the Saudis kill someone somewhere other than their own consulate?

Posted on 10/14/18 at 7:30 pm to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
17065 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 7:30 pm to
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I have a better one. If they didnt kill him, all they would need to do is produce the security cam footage of him leaving


How about someone else showing video of him ENTERING the compound????????
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 7:32 pm to
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How about someone else showing video of him ENTERING the compound????????


The Saudis admit that he was there.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
17065 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 7:36 pm to
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The Saudis admit that he was there.



I see dozens of reports from Turks and this "girlfriend" nothing from the Saudis that said he visited on that particular day at that time........
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:27 pm to
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I see dozens of reports from Turks and this "girlfriend" nothing from the Saudis that said he visited on that particular day at that time........


I’m not here to persuade you.

You’re making a factually innacurate statement though, and you’re making a claim that even the Saudis aren’t making.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:29 pm to
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How about someone else showing video of him ENTERING the compound????????


The Saudis said he was there. What more do you want? You’re just going to believe what you want to believe anyway
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5637 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:59 pm to
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The Saudis admit that he was there.

Shhhhhhh, he's on a roll.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:26 pm to
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What I can’t understand is why does it take 15 guys to kill one journalist?


They killed him, and cut the body up, they then had to get rid of the pieces, which would draw less suspicion one guy making 15 trips to a car each time carrying a bag, or 15 guys leaving randomly each with one bag.
This post was edited on 10/14/18 at 9:27 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
40983 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 11:40 pm to
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What I can’t understand is why does it take 15 guys to kill one journalist?

Here again, it’s part of their ritualistic savage nature. They run in packs. They enjoy the bloodlust aspect of it but they fear even odds in a cowardly way.

They have never in their history won any sort of battle as an outnumbered underdog or even with even odds. Never. Matter of fact they have been beaten, countless times, even when bringing superior forces.

They are quick to surrender in battle.

I hope that helps to explain their need for superior numbers at all times.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21382 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 11:52 pm to
They still cut off heads. That's like so Dark Ages.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5637 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 12:09 am to
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There is suspicion he may have been killed for criticising the kingdom's Crown Prince and de facto ruler, Mohammed bin Salman. The Saudis have strenuously denied the allegations, but admit Mr Khashoggi did enter the consulate.

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The journalist believed to have been assassinated by Saudi Arabia may have recorded his final terrifying moments on his Apple Watch.

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Reports claim Jamal Khashoggi, 59, recorded his own torture and murder on the device after entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, where he had gone to obtain paperwork to marry his fiancee.

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The gadget transmitted the audio to his iPhone which was in the hands of his fiancee, Hatice Cengiz, 36, who is said to have listened in horror as she waited outside.

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According to The Daily Sabah, a government-backed Turkish newspaper, Mr Khashoggi was so concerned about his safety that he set his Apple Watch to record mode before walking into the consulate.
It claimed his attackers tried to 'erase' the recording from his watch, not realising it had already been uploaded to his iCloud account.


Daily Mail

Fox Business video
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 12:10 am
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 3:16 am to
Remind me again why anyone outside of Saudi Arabia should give two shits about a murdered journalist/spy?

He was in the US for less than a year.

Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 6:31 am to
Pretty sure the Saudi military still carry swords

Outdated as hell but you are right they love the steel over guns etc.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
17065 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 6:37 am to
Erdogan pissed that he could not get extradition for opposition leader in exile in states, he wanted a swap for the minister, instead we sanction him and tank the economy, no animosity there.

Erdogan is a big fan of muslim brotherhood and would love to stick a thumb in the eye of the Saudis at the same time calling the US wussies for not acting.

This reporter is BFF with the muslim brotherhood and despises the current Saudi govt.

the 15 man hit squad who registered their flight with their real names is exactly how most assassins travel.

The dismemberment and taking it out in bags one at a time sounds like Russian hookers peeing on beds.

He leaves his phone with his girlfriend and says if I dont come back call this asst of Erdogan. Thats what I do when I visit the embassy, I tell my wife to just call Mike Pence if I dont come out.

The embassy wont admit phones but will let an apple watch on the compound?????

The msm jumps all over this story. Hundreds of journalists killed in mexico, but this for some reason is HUGE news with demands for sanctions.

The assasins tried to erase the info on his apple watch not knowing that it was already transmitted. Im confused, I thought he was dead at this point, did he hold a presser from the grave, did the assasins call the WaPo to give an exclusive???

Where are these tapes, there are dozens of reports on the msm about them, where are they, area 51???

He lived in the US yet decides to get his divorce papers in Turkey, they have four embassies in the US, did he just want to rack up some frequent flyer miles perhaps?

Now the Saudis have agreed to let the Turks search the place, course they wont find anything but according to the latest "Ford" rule, lack of being able to prove you didnt do something you didnt do means you are guilty.

Nice try but no sanctions. On to the next witch hunt.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108291 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 7:48 am to
^^^^^^^ someone has put a little thought into this.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92623 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:08 am to
A. They wanted some information.

2. No body, no crime
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5637 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 1:25 pm to
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Remind me again why anyone outside of Saudi Arabia should give two shits about a murdered journalist/spy? 

He was in the US for less than a year. 

Im not saying we should. The brazzen act itself is like a traffic accident. Its kinda hard not to take an interest in that respect but from a political or national security interest? I dont know if that would or should rank high on our priorities.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24939 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 1:52 pm to
Why would they kill him there? It would be so much simplier politically to kill him ANYWHERE else!

Why was most of the staff told to not show up at the embassy that day?

Why would they yell about having video/audio proof, but not release the video.

There is some bullshite being pulled here. As soon as this happens they are pounding the drums of war over this.

I say don't fall for their trap.
Posted by 4Mpipeliner
Member since Dec 2017
124 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:25 pm to
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?

Jake Tapper

@jaketapper

BREAKING — 2 sources tell

@clarissaward

and

@TimListerCNN

that the Saudis are preparing a report that will acknowledge Jamal Khashoggi's death was the result of an interrogation that went wrong, one that was intended to lead to his abduction from Turkey.

2:08 PM · Oct 15, 2018



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Jake Tapper

@jaketapper

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16m

Replying to

@jaketapper

2/ One source: report will likely conclude that the operation was carried out without clearance and transparency and that those involved will be held responsible. One source: report is still being prepared and cautioned that things could change.



Guess they are admitting it.
Posted by duggieblue
GA
Member since Feb 2010
4359 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 3:04 pm to
Trinidadtiger .... Hey Mohammed bin Salman! How are things?
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