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re: Why aren’t anti abortion adopting children

Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:10 am to
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:10 am to
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This. People do not truly understand the costs associated.



Who do you pay the money to? What do they use it on? I cant imagine why it would cost $50k to take legal custody of a person. Is this money going to the state?
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:12 am to
Lawyers
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2092 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:15 am to
In the case of Missouri the state covers the cost of adopting a child that you are fostering, meaning they pay the lawyers. And while it doesn't cover near everything the child needs they also continue paying the adoptive parents the same money they received while fostering after adoption. You certainly aren't getting rich off that money but every little bit helps. I haven't gotten to this point yet, but there is also a pretty sizable tax write off if you adopt from foster care, I want to say it is in the $15k ballpark per child
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 9:17 am
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2092 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:31 am to
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Plus there’s always the fear that the “real” parents will somehow stop it all at the last second.


It is tough, but that is the mentality you have to have when going into fostering, but it is also the hope. Their is a couple that lives near us and who has adopted three from foster care and still has another that they are currently fostering. They had a child for two years after taking over while she was a newborn. Her bio mom wasn't a bad mother, she just didn't have her life together because of a string of bad luck and bad choices. So after that two years, they went thru the lengthy adoption process, I've been told it takes about 6 months to a year. So at that point when they'd finally finalized the adoption they mother miraculously had turned it all around. The bio Mom showed back up asking, not demanding to have her child back, but understood if they wouldn't.

I don't know if I would have this sort of strength but they spent the next few months visiting with the bio Mom, and seeing if she truly had turned it around and they saw that she had. So even after having custody at that point for the first three years of the child's life, they agreed to give the child back, they didn't want the kid to be 16 and ask why they did not let her go back to her Mom when her Mom had turned her life around. That is the goal of fostering, but I honestly don't know that I would have that same sort of strength. The bright spot of that is that they were reunified, and the bio Mom did actually turn her life around. The kid is actually in her teens now and regularly babysits for many of the foster families in our area.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79401 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:52 am to
Gotta love the pro life till birth crowd.

Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2092 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 3:48 pm to
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Gotta love the pro life till birth crowd.
Even those folks give the kids a better shot at making it in life than the folks would rather abort them before even having a chance.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 4:31 pm to
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The issues aren’t just with state laws. The are incredible federal hurdles to overcome.


I'm sure. But would be important for States to fix themselves, and then find a way to force the FEDs to fix itself. ie... conservative states need to start doing it now, and then when (hopefully) we get a new Right leaning Prez in 24, then a plan can be provided that fixes the feds. Not sure what agency this falls under, but maybe the upcoming SCOTUS decision on the EPA issue can help here too.

Thanks for your longer response too. I've heard of the horrible gut punch of losing out at the last min. Sad no doubt. Especially since it costs so much. Don't know why it does or what all that money goes towards, but costs need to be figured out, especially since it should stop wasteful govt spending in the future. Also, how to stop the leeches that get thru just for money.

Thanks for all you do regarding this. It's a selfless act no doubt. God bless.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79401 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 4:44 pm to
Your right life is sacred, not like so sacred that you’ll help support it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128758 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 4:46 pm to
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Your right life is sacred, not like so sacred that you’ll help support it.


You didn’t read any of the thread, didja? Embarrassing.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79401 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 4:53 pm to
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Probably because I didn’t abort mine and taking care of them.


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It’s not my fault others didn’t plan but it’s also not my responsibility to pick up their parents’ slack, either.


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I value the life of children and care for my own. I expect others to do the same.


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Liberals are always expecting someone to pay for their bad life choices.



Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128758 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 5:12 pm to
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My sister had two young foster kids for over a year and one for about two


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I am pro life and have raised several kids who were abandoned by their parents.


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I've adopted 2 and am an ardent pro-lifer.


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A lot of us are, currently I have two foster kids and assuming their bio folks don't get their lives together, we'll be adopting come January.


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We adopted our daughter who had withdrawals for days after birth. We didn't see her till a week after her birth and didn't go through it with her. Not sure how much the mother used during pregnancy but she is 8 yrs old, super smart, very athletic, and a bold leader. She is amazing. Our oldest daughter we also adopted also as a baby and were able to be with her on the birth day.


Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2092 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:13 pm to
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Your right life is sacred, not like so sacred that you’ll help support it.



I’m currently a foster parent to two children, as I discussed earlier in this thread. So yes, so sacred I support it and do all I can to help children who need a family to care for and love them as well as give them a home.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35307 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:23 pm to
Plus they are.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
21011 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:25 pm to
Let me have the sex and I'll take care of the kid.

The way God intended it.
Posted by NOLAGurl
Member since Aug 2021
354 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:03 pm to
My anti abortion brother-in-law and sister adopted a kid along with the three they already have.
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 8:04 pm
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56802 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:04 pm to
Why are whores not taking birth control or having the dude shoot it in her face or making him wear a condom.
Posted by matty3387
Metairie
Member since May 2018
1700 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:05 pm to
Probably because we are responsible and take care of the kids we, by God created. "It ain't chess, it's checkers!!!"
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2092 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:16 pm to
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Probably because we are responsible and take care of the kids we, by God created. "It ain't chess, it's checkers!!!"


Raising your own is expected, raising your own kids is checkers, taking on kids that need a home is more difficult, requires more parenting skills, so I’d say that is the chess level task
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 10:17 pm
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2092 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:37 pm to
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Why are whores not taking birth control or having the dude shoot it in her face or making him wear a condom


It takes two, don’t put it all on the woman. Our society is beyond screwed up, folks need to find their way back to Church and become better people. Your statement sounds like that of a person with nothing more than a high school education, not a high school degree, just some high school education.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2092 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:18 am to
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This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:26 am
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