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re: Why are we afraid of Democratic Socialism?
Posted on 2/14/20 at 11:10 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 2/14/20 at 11:10 am to NC_Tigah
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Re-elect Trump. The swamp is a formed oligarchy. Trump is its antithesis.
Ya'll have been bamboozled if you think a billionaire who's the child of a billionaire is somehow outside the swamp. The dude is the epitome of Swamp Thing.
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Posted on 2/14/20 at 11:12 am to LSUconvert
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The dude is the epitome of Swamp Thing.
His policies so far say otherwise. As do the reaction of the entrenched bureaucracy to those policies.
Posted on 2/14/20 at 11:13 am to LSUconvert
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Ya'll have been bamboozled if you think a billionaire who's the child of a billionaire is somehow outside the swamp. The dude is the epitome of Swamp Thing.
So, the unceasing opposition outrage is directed to what?
Posted on 2/14/20 at 11:41 am to Y.A. Tittle
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So, the unceasing opposition outrage is directed to what?
Who's opposition outrage are you talking about?
Posted on 2/14/20 at 11:47 am to LSUconvert
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The dude is the epitome of Swamp Thing.
And yet..., his shite is better than a socialist
Posted on 2/15/20 at 4:01 pm to CleverUserName
Not a bad idea actually. Kudos.
There are always outliers though so what would you propose for those absolutely incapable of working? Not those who choose to not work, those who've been injured so badly they cannot return to their profession or those who are mentally disabled and are unemployable?
Also, what about people who've built up an HSA but their medical costs far exceed what they've contributed and are elective procedures counted? I know someone saddled with a $75k helicopter flight to a hospital because it was deemed elective (they were rescued in the mountains, no other form of transport was available).
How are the elderly treated if they are no longer viable in the work force? We keep the same Medicaid system run by the government or would that be something else?
There are always outliers though so what would you propose for those absolutely incapable of working? Not those who choose to not work, those who've been injured so badly they cannot return to their profession or those who are mentally disabled and are unemployable?
Also, what about people who've built up an HSA but their medical costs far exceed what they've contributed and are elective procedures counted? I know someone saddled with a $75k helicopter flight to a hospital because it was deemed elective (they were rescued in the mountains, no other form of transport was available).
How are the elderly treated if they are no longer viable in the work force? We keep the same Medicaid system run by the government or would that be something else?
Posted on 2/15/20 at 5:24 pm to Meatflap
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Again, your large company is pooling money from its employees every month to fund those that need healthcare within its own system. Don't be thick.
You still don't get it.
I take it you have never been in upper management in a large company or you would know this.
My employer pays 90% of our premiums. My company offers a "Cadillac" plan , thank god Trump got rid of the Obamacare tax on Cadillac plans.
The employees do not contribute enough to help pay for another employee in any meaningful way. My company eats the costs.
I pay $223 a month or $2676 a year for my family's healthcare (3 people). Our cost is based on family size not wallet size like government plans would be.
My company pays the rest $24,084 for my family's yearly premiums.
EVERY employee from a custodian to the president gets this healthcare.
Healthcare is a benefit provided by my employer in lieu of wages.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 5:37 pm to DimTigerDontHate
BLOOMBERG will be the nominee. Not Bernie. NEVER Bernie.
Bernie will not be the nominee.
Bernie will not be the nominee.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 5:42 pm to DimTigerDontHate
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public schooling didn't already exist today
This already shouldn't exist today. At least, not at the federal level.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 6:39 pm to Meatflap
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Not those who choose to not work, those who've been injured so badly they cannot return to their profession or those who are mentally disabled and are unemployable?
The first group is likely going to get Medicare via the Social Security disability system. The latter group is almost certainly eligible for Medicaid.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 6:42 pm to DimTigerDontHate
If you worked, supported yourself and owed no one jackshit you would realize the ignorant nature of your question
Posted on 2/15/20 at 6:56 pm to DimTigerDontHate
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Democratic Socialism
You mean communism?
As for either it’s all the other failed countries that implemented their principles and philosophy.
But you knew this
Posted on 2/15/20 at 6:57 pm to Centinel
quote:Please explain?
His policies so far say otherwise. As do the reaction of the entrenched bureaucracy to those policies.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 7:01 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:Communism in what way? Are you aware of the definition of Communism? Dems don't want to emulate failed systems. They do however want pull from policies that have been proven successful and are currently in use in other parts of the world today.
You mean communism?
As for either it’s all the other failed countries that implemented their principles and philosophy.
But you knew this
Posted on 2/15/20 at 7:07 pm to DTRooster
quote:Let me know how I can "Owe no one jack shite" that sounds great! I'm assuming you live off grid in the wilderness of Alaska and are currently browsing the internet via a Satellite phone on your brother's family plan.
If you worked, supported yourself and owed no one jackshit you would realize the ignorant nature of your question
Posted on 2/15/20 at 7:11 pm to Meatflap
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There are always outliers though so what would you propose for those absolutely incapable of working? Not those who choose to not work, those who've been injured so badly they cannot return to their profession or those who are mentally disabled and are unemployable? Also, what about people who've built up an HSA but their medical costs far exceed what they've contributed and are elective procedures counted? I know someone saddled with a $75k helicopter flight to a hospital because it was deemed elective (they were rescued in the mountains, no other form of transport was available). How are the elderly treated if they are no longer viable in the work force? We keep the same Medicaid system run by the government or would that be something else?
Medicare and Medicaid would remain intact. Social security remains intact. Insurance remains intact. The HSA would only be first means of payment. When depleted, insurance takes over.
The Requirement of the HSA as payment first would reduce the burden on Medicaid and Medicare though. And the healthy people who have large HSAs at retirement where it gains on investment would reduce Medicare burden also. They have the same right to Medicare, the HSA is just used first. When it’s depleted, Medicare kicks in immediately.
This post was edited on 2/15/20 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 2/15/20 at 7:12 pm to DimTigerDontHate
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Communism in what way?
Enforcing, by government mandate (and literal force, via taxation policy, largely), relative equality of outcomes, regardless of the talent, ability, work ethic or decisions of the individuals.
This universally produces nothing but shortage, famine and an economic decline.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 7:33 pm to DimTigerDontHate
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Why are we afraid of Democratic Socialism? by
Same reason we knew it wouldn't stop at gay marriage...
Posted on 2/15/20 at 7:49 pm to DimTigerDontHate
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Communism in what way? Are you aware of the definition of Communism? Dems don't want to emulate failed systems. They do however want pull from policies that have been proven successful and are currently in use in other parts of the world today.
Youre the most naive poster on the board.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 8:20 pm to DimTigerDontHate
You right I “owe” our leacherous Government too much already. Not glad I pay for your sorry arse to live
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