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Why are there so few school bombings?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:41 am
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:41 am
Forgive me if already discussed. I often hear the argument that mass shooters would just use bombs to fulfill their bloodlust instead of guns and, to an extent, it is a fair point.
To my knowledge, you cannot purchase a ready to use bomb in the US. If this is mistaken I am sure someone will correct me. I didnt want to google too much about it and end up on a watch list. Does this mean the inability to purchase a bomb is a deterrent to using bombs in this country, OR is it the availability of guns that makes them an easier option? If the murderer ysterday had used a bomb instead of a gun, would there be any resistance to laws being passed to further restrict the availability of bomb components, or would it be evidence that bomb control laws dont work?
To my knowledge, you cannot purchase a ready to use bomb in the US. If this is mistaken I am sure someone will correct me. I didnt want to google too much about it and end up on a watch list. Does this mean the inability to purchase a bomb is a deterrent to using bombs in this country, OR is it the availability of guns that makes them an easier option? If the murderer ysterday had used a bomb instead of a gun, would there be any resistance to laws being passed to further restrict the availability of bomb components, or would it be evidence that bomb control laws dont work?
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 9:42 am
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:43 am to 9th life
Most of these guys are not that bright and this guy in particular didn't have a problem advertising his intentions, so I'm guessing it's just that guns are just easier than making an IED.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:44 am to Iosh
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Most of these guys are not that bright
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Iosh
Cute.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:45 am to 9th life
Because making bombs requires knowing what the frick you are doing.
“Work accidents” are common with bomb makers even when they are competent. An amateur is far more likely to blow themselves up than anyone else.
“Work accidents” are common with bomb makers even when they are competent. An amateur is far more likely to blow themselves up than anyone else.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:45 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:47 am to 9th life
I think most of these shooters have a vendetta against one or more of their classmates or teachers, and shooting them is much more personal then attempting to kill them with a bomb. I think if their sole intent was to kill as many people as possible you would see more bombs being used. A bomb like the one used at the Boston marathon in the middle of a school cafeteria would be devastating.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:50 am to 9th life
Funny you should mention this. I'll post this little nugget right here. It's from the Palm Beach Post.
Explosives
Explosives
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:53 am to UpToPar
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I think most of these shooters have a vendetta against one or more of their classmates or teachers, and shooting them is much more personal then attempting to kill them with a bomb. I think if their sole intent was to kill as many people as possible you would see more bombs being used. A bomb like the one used at the Boston marathon in the middle of a school cafeteria would be devastating.
This was going to be my response. While I imagine the shooter frequently gets lost in the adrenaline at some point, I have to think the first couple of trigger pulls are the height of intentional.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:53 am to 9th life
Because we have a STEM crisis in this country. None of our deranged are smart enough to create their own bomb.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:57 am to 9th life
Don't know but China has a history of knife attacks at schools. There have been machete attacks in UK, U.S., and other countries.
Cars, trucks, and commercial vehicles can mow people down and kill/maim efficiently as has been proven in France, U.S., UK, and other countries.
Bomb making requires some knowledge and skill to make them efficient at killing. Knives and vehicles don't require much.
Cars, trucks, and commercial vehicles can mow people down and kill/maim efficiently as has been proven in France, U.S., UK, and other countries.
Bomb making requires some knowledge and skill to make them efficient at killing. Knives and vehicles don't require much.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:58 am to teke184
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Because making bombs requires knowing what the frick you are doing.
So you can't purchase a ready-to-use bomb, and they are not used frequently to murder and kill people en masse in this country.
Does this not make an argument for gun control? or is it our lack of gun control that makes guns a viable, safer alternative to bombs when wanting to kill as many people as possible?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:59 am to Tridentds
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Bomb making requires some knowledge and skill to make them efficient at killing.
Building a bomb to time delay or be capable of knocking down walls is tough. However, the average American would be horrified if they knew how easy it is to make a basic pipe bomb, which is extremely efficient at killing people in a single room.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:00 am to UpToPar
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I think most of these shooters have a vendetta against one or more of their classmates or teachers, and shooting them is much more personal then attempting to kill them with a bomb. I think if their sole intent was to kill as many people as possible you would see more bombs being used. A bomb like the one used at the Boston marathon in the middle of a school cafeteria would be devastating.
i can see that.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:00 am to 9th life
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So you can't purchase a ready-to-use bomb, and they are not used frequently to murder and kill people en masse in this country.
Does this not make an argument for gun control? or is it our lack of gun control that makes guns a viable, safer alternative to bombs when wanting to kill as many people as possible?
Nope. If people wanted to kill in a world without guns, they would build bombs. You'd just be moving from one mode to another.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:12 am to UpToPar
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I think most of these shooters have a vendetta against one or more of their classmates or teachers, and shooting them is much more personal then attempting to kill them with a bomb. I think if their sole intent was to kill as many people as possible you would see more bombs being used. A bomb like the one used at the Boston marathon in the middle of a school cafeteria would be devastating.
Don't forget poisons!
Even easier to obtain, conceal, and apply than a bomb and safer for the perp too. Just also so much more impersonal, so much less "instant impact" gratification from the boom and splat of a firearm (like video games).
These nutcases want that control over and immediate feedback for their actions. Bombs and poisons and chem/bio weapons are terror weapons and not revenge stuff.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:13 am to 9th life
Let’s go ad absurdium on this then.
Let’s ban guns, knives, aerosol cans, gasoline, automobiles, chlorine bleach, and ammonia because all are capable of being misused to cause deaths.
Someone wanting to cause mass death will find a way to do it by misusing something legally available.
The 9/11 hijackers killed about 4000 people using box cutters to take over airliners.
People are using large trucks and SUVs to kill pedestrians.
People using gasoline to commit arson.
Let’s just get rid of all of it and then we’ll be safe... until someone makes a pointed stick to use on everyone else.
Bombs being illegal isn’t what is stopping people as much as having to know what you are doing to keep from killing yourself by accident.
Some dumbass could buy a crate of dynamite and then go full on Arzt by storing it improperly then accidentally blowing themselves up by mishandling dynamite that is sweating nitroglycerin.
Let’s ban guns, knives, aerosol cans, gasoline, automobiles, chlorine bleach, and ammonia because all are capable of being misused to cause deaths.
Someone wanting to cause mass death will find a way to do it by misusing something legally available.
The 9/11 hijackers killed about 4000 people using box cutters to take over airliners.
People are using large trucks and SUVs to kill pedestrians.
People using gasoline to commit arson.
Let’s just get rid of all of it and then we’ll be safe... until someone makes a pointed stick to use on everyone else.
Bombs being illegal isn’t what is stopping people as much as having to know what you are doing to keep from killing yourself by accident.
Some dumbass could buy a crate of dynamite and then go full on Arzt by storing it improperly then accidentally blowing themselves up by mishandling dynamite that is sweating nitroglycerin.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:13 am to 9th life
They dont wanna hear the truth bruh so they make up reality.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:30 am to teke184
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Bombs being illegal isn’t what is stopping people as much as having to know what you are doing to keep from killing yourself by accident.
The deterrent isnt the law per se, but rather the danger of making your own. if they were legal to purchase ready-to-use, then people would use them more frequently, as the risk of killing yourself would be lessened.
had the killer used a bomb, would you be opposed to stricter bomb control?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:34 am to 9th life
Because after almost every known bombing in this country, Congress works to make the items used in the bomb harder to procure.
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