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re: Why are the conservative libertarians fighting maga so hard?

Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:49 pm to
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When MAGA/RW was crying about that gay nurse protester having a weapon, that was peak cinema. Truly


Are you talking about pretti? No one was crying. We were simply defending the ICE agents for doing their job and defending themselves.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
484371 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:50 pm to
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The constitution is not a suicide pact.

Muslims aren't anywhere close to a threat to make it a "suicide pact"

You are the perfect example of why the Founders made our system the way it is. People like you using dishonesty and retarded emotional arguments to rile up mobs can't gain power easily and erode the freedoms the Founders fought so hard to establish.

You can read about this exact scenario in the Federalist Papers. Federalist 10

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From this view of the subject it may be concluded that a pure democracy, by which I mean a society consisting of a small number of citizens, who assemble and administer the government in person, can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common passion or interest will, in almost every case, be felt by a majority of the whole; a communication and concert result from the form of government itself; and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party or an obnoxious individual. Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians, who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would, at the same time, be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.


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You are the epitome of the suicidal empathy that gets discussed here often.


Don't insult Gad Saad by pretending promoting retardation is in sync with his rhetoric.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
29022 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:50 pm to
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State/local laws


So if Georgia decided that gay people should be put in prison you don’t want any federal intervention? We might agree that state and local laws should be sufficient but that ship sailed about 150 years ago.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
484371 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:51 pm to
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There is no 3rd choice in a general election.

Only you are limiting this discussion to general elections.

But you don't know how to engage in discussions honestly, so that's not shocking.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40995 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:00 pm to
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So if Georgia decided that gay people should be put in prison you don’t want any federal intervention? We might agree that state and local laws should be sufficient but that ship sailed about 150 years ago.


If you decide to do it that way then you will fail on any level.

Previously they used sodomy laws for that, and even then it was selective. Even that would get challenged, as it should be.

But other actions, such as teaching sexual crap to kids should be illegal and that's a state issue as well. When it comes to those things, specific actions that have a victim, then you can get some where.

People can be gay without grooming kids. Grooming kids is the thing that should be illegal.

In general criminal cases are decided on a state level and that's where it belongs. Like with abortion, same thing. Put it on the states.

As always the arguments against freedom revolve around fear of how other people will use them.

Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:00 pm to
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Muslims aren't anywhere close to a threat to make it a "suicide pact"


History says otherwise, you fricking putz:





Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42473 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:08 pm to
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No, those are your boogiemen.


They are very real threats in 2026. We know what Muslims do with political power. We know what commies do with political power.

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You want government control over people to force them into a life that suits you.


Wrong again. They are free to be retarded if they want to be. Unlike you, I vote to ensure they have NO political power over people.

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You want to force me into paying for foreign wars of bullshite.

You want to force me into paying for a police state

You want to force me into paying for bailing out big corporations.

You want to force me into paying for things like corn subsides.




The left likes these things too, so none of them qualify as a right wing.

I am talking about the differences seen in the culture wars you prefer to lose by sitting on the sidelines.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 11:15 pm
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
42148 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:10 pm to
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Are you talking about pretti? No one was crying. We were simply defending the ICE agents for doing their job and defending themselves.


LINK

Maybe u live in a bubble, there was a lot of crying from the right about him having a loaded weapon.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 11:11 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42473 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:10 pm to
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Try again.


Nah. People vote for policies in elections, which provides political power.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42473 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:11 pm to
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The question is what redeeming qualities you find in freedom.


The ability to remain normal without being threatened by radical liberal policies.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42473 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:13 pm to
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Muslims aren't anywhere close to a threat to make it a "suicide pact"



In 2026. Now consider 2126. They are playing a very long game, and you refuse to play as they advance.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42473 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:14 pm to
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Only you are limiting this discussion to general elections.


Exactly because the general elections are coming up.

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But you don't know how to engage in discussions honestly, so that's not shocking.


Look at this projection.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42473 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:16 pm to
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Maybe u live in a bubble, there was a lot of crying from the right about him having a loaded weapon.


Acknowledging the weapon simply supported the actions made by the cop, which is NOT crying.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40995 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:17 pm to
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They are very real threats in 2026. We know what Muslims do with political power. We know what commies do with political power.


You mean like the KKK said about black people and jewish people?

They are your boogiemen.

I was your boogieman during covid.

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Wrong again. They are free to be retarded if they want to be. Unlike you, I vote to ensure they have NO political power over people.


You mean what the constitution already does?

Except the constitution also prevents you, and that's why you hate it.


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The left likes these things too, so none of them qualify as a right wing.



Yeah, because...you are the left. That's why you like the same things as the left.

You're getting close.

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I am talking about the differences seen in the culture wars you prefer to lose by sitting on the sidelines.


The people will decide that, not government.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 11:26 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15428 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:22 pm to
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I was a libertarian for years. Now I’m a registered Democrat.


Tracks.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
42148 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:33 pm to
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Acknowledging the weapon simply supported the actions made by the cop, which is NOT crying.


So you too missed all of the tweets, articles, NRA/GOA responding to the right about being morally bankrupt about guns like the left. Head in the sand.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40995 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:45 pm to
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In 2026. Now consider 2126. They are playing a very long game, and you refuse to play as they advance.


Your fears do not earn the right to strip others of their liberties.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
3019 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:56 pm to
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Maybe u live in a bubble, there was a lot of crying from the right about him having a loaded weapon


Nope. No crying. Merely presenting the facts which establish why the little fa ggot got what he deserved.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42473 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:01 am to
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Your fears do not earn the right to strip others of their liberties.


This isnt as difficult as you make it.

I am not advocating to strip their liberties, but they want to attain the power to strip you of yours.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40995 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:03 am to
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This isnt as difficult as you make it.

I am not advocating to strip their liberties, but they want to attain the power to strip you of yours.


That's called the US constitution and that's why conservatives want to conserve it.

You want to strip peoples liberties, that's why you hate it.
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