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re: Why are the conservative libertarians fighting maga so hard?

Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:32 pm to
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The question is what redeeming qualities you find in freedom.


Freedom is not absolute. We have numerous restrictions on freedom, and rightfully so
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:33 pm to
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Freedom is not absolute.

I didn't say it was.

You didn't provide examples that required anything close to absolute freedom.

I mean hell, you included a religion and political ideology, both of which are specifically protected by the 1A
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:35 pm to
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I didn't say it was. You didn't provide examples that required anything close to absolute freedom. I mean hell, you included a religion and political ideology, both of which are specifically protected by the 1A


He’s telling you he hates black people and anyone foreign
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:35 pm to
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I mean hell, you included a religion and political ideology, both of which are specifically protected by the 1A


Islam is not a religion. It is an evil bloodthirsty sociopathic cult that is incompatible with western civilization.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 10:36 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:36 pm to
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Islam is not a religion



Update: it is a religion, and has been for about 1400 years

You're not doing a good job of discussing the values of freedom by being dishonest.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:36 pm to
Keep it up, Adolf
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:38 pm to
Let us not forget this claim a few pages back:

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You have yet to describe how the right wants to control you. Why? It doesnt want to.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:38 pm to
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Nope. I just don’t see any redeeming value in figs, illegal aliens, moslems, marxists, ghetto people, etc. Apparently you and the actual leftists do, though.

ETA: I also don’t like seeing my country crumble into a third world shithole, either. Apparently you’re ok with that too.


You align with the KKK, who were leftist democrats and social justice warriors.

You're not a conservative. You're just a different brand of left.



Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:39 pm to
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You want to force me into social standards that you consider acceptable.


That’s what everybody wants with the exception of anarchists.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:39 pm to
If Also can’t be populist and conservative at the same time bro.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:40 pm to
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That’s what everybody wants with the exception of anarchists.


That's what the people who founded this country tried to escape from.

Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:40 pm to
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Update: it is a religion, and has been for about 1400 years You're not doing a good job of discussing the values of freedom by being dishonest.


Not really. It’s nothing more that a giant version of the Manson cult. The world would be far better off today if it had never existed, much like Naziism and Marxism.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
484371 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:41 pm to
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The world would be far better off today if it had never existed,

I don't disagree, but that doesn't mean it's not a religion.

The world would be better off if quite a few religions never existed. But religion exists because of how we developed society, so it is what it is.

That's why we have the 1A.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42473 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:42 pm to
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You've yet to describe the policies that support your argument, after being asked multiple times.


When in power, the left advances their woke policies that are a threat to freedom loving Americans. Simply oppose all of their policies.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
484371 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:44 pm to
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When in power, the left advances their woke policies that are a threat to freedom loving Americans.


You've still yet to describe the policies that support your argument.

Saying you're anti-Left isn't an effective strategy. It may work on 85-IQ types, but that's a different thread.

There are countless ways to be anti-Left.

You can go back to my original response:

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Top 3 for me:

1. MAGA's Deficit spending
2. MAGA's Leftist economics
3. MAGA's idiocracy

I want a party opposing the left who does better than MAGA.


That argument is already covered. Nobody ITT is supporting the left.

This thread is discussing variations of non-Left political groupings and policy groupings.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 10:46 pm
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
3019 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:45 pm to
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That's why we have the 1A.


The constitution is not a suicide pact. You are the epitome of the suicidal empathy that gets discussed here often.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
29022 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:45 pm to
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That's what the people who founded this country tried to escape from.



They had social standards enforced by law just like every other civilization that’s ever existed.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:45 pm to
When MAGA/RW was crying about that gay nurse protester having a weapon, that was peak cinema. Truly
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42473 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:46 pm to
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This discussion is about policy, not voting.



They go hand in hand. People vote for policies.

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the GOP has many different umbrellas with different policies on borders.


There is no 3rd choice in a general election. Its GOP or Democrat. How many republicans are for open borders?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40995 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:47 pm to
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They had social standards enforced by law just like every other civilization that’s ever existed.


State/local laws and a justice system.

Not federal.


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