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re: Why are tariffs bad when we do it, but not when they do it to us?

Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:56 am to
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61379 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:56 am to
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We have the strongest economy in the world.
The countries who embrace tariffs have inferior economies.
Why do you, and Trump, want to make our economy worse?


So when do we stop propping up the world’s economies from WWII?

Is there ever an end to it?

When do we take back our manufacturing and have an actually real economy? What about the generations of people now who are struggling to have a career that gives them a living wage, purchase a home, have kids responsibly to maintain a viable and healthy economy?


Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9036 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:56 am to
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We have the strongest economy in the world


Every working person in this country owes, on top of their personal debt, $336,363 in federal debt. So, laughably wrong. We have a strong bubble, until we don't.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:56 am to
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Would rather our cronies not use the American taxpayers as the piggy banks which is exactly what they have done over last 6-7 decades. First allowing European nations to rape us and then Asian markets.


Youre under the false impression that trade deficits are tied to the debt.

Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
19088 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:57 am to
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Would you rather have our economy or theirs?








Would you rather have our military or theirs ? I know the question is a non sequitir but heck while we're asking them......
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
4206 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:58 am to
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Those that think the economy begins and ends with the stock market cannot be reasoned with


So, basically, all of the old folks who worked hard their entire lives, all of the veterans, all of the people who were told to use a 401k for their retirement.....just frick'em. That is your position.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:59 am to
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Those that think the economy begins and ends with the stock market


When you retire, you going to live off SS?

Apparently so.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84992 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:00 am to
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So, basically, all of the old folks who worked hard their entire lives, all of the veterans, all of the people who were told to use a 401k for their retirement.....just frick'em. That is your position.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:00 am to
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just frick'em. That is your position.


They need to sacrifice for the greater good, comrade.

Those crackheads need factory jerbs.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40707 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:00 am to
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Would you rather have our economy or theirs?


You are a stupid person.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:01 am to
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I'l put you down for "I dont understand

Coming from THIS guy who said

Possibly the stupidest series of posts related to the market in a history of posts related to the market

quote:


Roger says

Even if they regain value, you still lost on your rate of return.

Followed by the below response and Roger answer

So...

I buy 1000 shares at 75

Share price drops to 60

It then goes to 85 and I sell.

Rogers answer
"You could have sold higher than 80 had the market not fallen

You lost 15, gained 25. That puts you 15 behind where you potentially could have been

And then TRIPLE DOWN

Potentially, absolutely.

If it hadnt gone to 60, it certianly would have sold higher than 80 in that time frame if the market were healthy

This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 9:02 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:02 am to
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You are a stupid person.



You are a populist.

Your success will be tied to government.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
2229 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:02 am to
When I was young we were taught to not put all your eggs in one basket.
Not others fault if they don’t diversify.
That ultimately won’t matter because the market will be back and booming in a the next couple years.

PS. This is important so pay attention. IF we had done nothing and kept going we would have been bankrupt and then another great depression which we are not facing now. One more time for you slow people.
WE WERE HEADING FOR BANKRUPTCY AS A COUNTRY
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84992 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:03 am to
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Rogers answer
"You could have sold higher than 80 had the market not fallen

You lost 15, gained 25. That puts you 15 behind where you potentially could have been
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40707 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:07 am to
He is a stupid person.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84992 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:09 am to
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He is a stupid person.

His mantra is amazing.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:11 am to
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Every working person in this country owes, on top of their personal debt, $336,363 in federal debt.
Indeed. Surely, more inflation will help.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4567 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:17 am to
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The tariffs aren’t reciprocal. For example Japan had 4.5% tariffs on us and we respond with 25%+ on them.


Do they charge a VAT or have any other regulations designed to make it harder for American products to enter their markets?
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17283 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:18 am to
Who is pretending they are the same ? Do we have one generic agreement currently? Do you think that EU should tariff is as they have been for 60 plus years and have near zero tariffs here? America must be pretty damn good as these countries around the world have businesses and people flock to our shores yet block their access for ours. We have seemingly supported other nations causing distress on ours and yet weak knee American citizens are consumed with angst against trying to make it better
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61379 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:19 am to
This all boils down to two mindsets, one that is focused of the short, and other the long game. In the short we have fluctuations and adjustments to contend with, but in the long you have a country that makes little to nothing, runs a 2 trillion dollar deficit and is 36 trillion in debt with a currency that the world currently hinges on. When everything goes south and the music stops, it’s America that will not find a seat, and will be avoided like the plague. What is America at present but the world’s financial institution and police?
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:22 am to
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Jbird

Roger is never going to recover from that post. People will be throwing it in his face for as long as he's on this board. It's so painfully stupid and so clearly stupid that it calls into question everything else he's ever said
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