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re: Why are extreme abortion examples okay in the abortion debate
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:14 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:14 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Idk, the butchers sued MS over a heartbeat law...
It would've covered extreme cases.
They are fricking sinister in their methods, dishonest in their goals, and masters to the masses.
It would've covered extreme cases.
They are fricking sinister in their methods, dishonest in their goals, and masters to the masses.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:14 pm to AggieHank86
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Extreme examples easily sway weak minds.
What does that say about the vast mundane middle ground of abortions which are essentially for personal convenience, as a primary form of birth control, or as a grisly adjunct policy of racist back door eugenics?
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:18 pm to AggieHank86
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And if an abortion opponent brings up third trimester abortions, ask if she would support abortion if it were limited to (for instance) 20 weeks.
If you kill a baby at 20 weeks, you have no soul. Heartbeat. Brain. You know the gender for weeks by this point. Normal people are picking names and painting walls.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:20 pm to Powerman
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You're not required to get vaccinated or have abortions
This isn't a discussion worth having
Oh, really? So people aren't being required by their jobs to get the jab?
And who said that was even the point of this "discussion"? The fact is that liberals don't want to hear about people dying or developing very serious problems from the vaccine, because they either try to pretend that no such thing happens, or that it's somehow a rare occurrence. Meanwhile, as the OP pointed out, they are quick to use very extreme cases to justify murdering babies.
If that isn't worthy of discussion to you, then you can see yourself out. Let people who give a crap about something other than themselves speak on what matters to them.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:20 pm to Open Your Eyes
Powerbottom has never been intelligent, there’s years upon years of proof
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:21 pm to Powerman
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You're not required to get vaccinated
Lol no youre right, as long as you dont mind being homeless
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:21 pm to Powerman
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You're not required to get vaccinated
Unless you work in the health care field or the military. In both cases you can be fired for refusing the vaccine. The OP is pointing out another example of leftist hypocrisy. My body, my choice is fine when you want to murder a child but wrong when you try to refuse a vaccine that is neither safe nor effective.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:21 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Nothing. The issues are unrelated.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:39 pm to thebigmuffaletta
In all honesty, there are a couple of things here. Is incest by choice something that should be covered as an allowance? Obviously, if it was unwanted incest (I.e. rape) that differs, but why is incest if not rape included?
It is not okay for someone that early on determined their fetus has a major defect to abort, but one who decided to get knocked up by a relative where the chances are higher for an issue but not guaranteed to have one is allowed. This is where that argument is broken.
I am actually for exceptions for rape and cases of incestual rape, but then you have to set specific guidelines. IOW, a charge of rape has to legally be made with consequences for a false accusation followed up with an abortion to avoid fakers using it as an out to get a convenience abortion.
If abortion is allowed for instances of rape, you better bet that false statistic that 1 in 4 women is raped will be way up to something like 1 in 3 or 1 in 2.
It is not okay for someone that early on determined their fetus has a major defect to abort, but one who decided to get knocked up by a relative where the chances are higher for an issue but not guaranteed to have one is allowed. This is where that argument is broken.
I am actually for exceptions for rape and cases of incestual rape, but then you have to set specific guidelines. IOW, a charge of rape has to legally be made with consequences for a false accusation followed up with an abortion to avoid fakers using it as an out to get a convenience abortion.
If abortion is allowed for instances of rape, you better bet that false statistic that 1 in 4 women is raped will be way up to something like 1 in 3 or 1 in 2.
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:42 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Why are extreme abortion examples okay in the abortion debate
For the same reason that extreme gun violence examples are okay in the "muh gun control" debate.
The overwhelming average is ignored, and the isolated incidents are made out to be the norm. It's gaslighting, narrative-control and manufacturing consent.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:47 pm to TigerAxeOK
quote:So, extreme examples easily sway weak minds?
For the same reason that extreme gun violence examples are okay in the "muh gun control" debate. The overwhelming average is ignored, and the isolated incidents are made out to be the norm. It's gaslighting, narrative-control and manufacturing consent.
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:49 pm to thebigmuffaletta
LIBS are extreme in all cases....remember, they never let a crisis go to waste.
Plus, they are miserable people and hate just about everything, including themselves.
Plus, they are miserable people and hate just about everything, including themselves.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:59 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
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What does that say about the vast mundane middle ground of abortions which are essentially for personal convenience, as a primary form of birth control, or as a grisly adjunct policy of racist back door eugenics?
There are ads running in Texas right now stating “abortion is healthcare”. These ads are not aimed at people on the margins, and are trying to normalize abortions as a means of birth control. AggieHank has seen these ads; and he defends The Party that funded them.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:10 pm to jrodLSUke
quote:Before the presence of higher brain function, YES, I do.
These ads are … trying to normalize abortions as a means of birth control. AggieHank has seen these ads; and he defends .. them.
The rights of a pregnant woman SHOULD exceed any hypothetical rights of an organism with less brain function than a garden slug.
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:23 pm to BobABooey
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If a pro-abortionist brings up “cases of rape and incest,” ask them if that means that means they’re on board with restricting abortion except in cases involving rape and incest.
100%. If they're resorting to these examples of why we need abortion, they're effectively acknowledging that it is wrong in every other circumstance.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:33 pm to Geauxgurt
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In all honesty, there are a couple of things here. Is incest by choice something that should be covered as an allowance? Obviously, if it was unwanted incest (I.e. rape) that differs, but why is incest if not rape included?
The Roll Tide clause?
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:36 pm to jrodLSUke
Come on, Rod, you cannot be THIS much of a coward.
Twice you have called me out BY NAME in THIS thread, and twice you have hidden from the response like a pre-teen pilfering dad’s beer fridge.
Twice you have called me out BY NAME in THIS thread, and twice you have hidden from the response like a pre-teen pilfering dad’s beer fridge.
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:40 pm to Powerman
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You're not required to get vaccinated or have abortions
So...in your view, they're the same.
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This isn't a discussion worth having
Based on your own comment, you believe these things to be comparable. Makes your conclusion here seem nonsensical.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 4:59 pm to AggieHank86
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Nothing. The issues are unrelated.
It’s not the issues at question, it’s the minds. Right?
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