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re: Why are DoJ Legal Opinions Justifying Lethal Force Against Venezuelan Civilians a Secret?

Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:52 am to
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5105 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:52 am to
My only disappointment with this Lethal Force by this administration being President Trump did not declare a national emergency. I would argue based on those terrible YouTube videos of American citizens (practically in every large city) bent over in Fentanyl induced stupor, more than justifies the destruction of these drug boats.

But then maybe those politicians screaming the loudest against President Trump's decision to save lives have much to lose ($$).

President Trump is right about..........everything.

Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
2779 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:32 pm to
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An unflagged vessel in international waters, also known as a stateless vessel, has no nationality and is not registered to any country. This makes it a lawless entity that can be boarded and seized by any nation, especially if it is suspected of illicit activities like piracy or human trafficking. Stateless vessels lack legal protection, leading to issues like invalid contracts, compromised insurance, and difficulties ensuring the crew's rights.


For the sake of argument, let’s assume everything you said here is accurate.

And none of it would justify treating those boats or their occupants as armed combatants, subject to targeting on site without any warning or need to demonstrate hostile intent.

And if they’re not able to be classified as enemy combatants, then the extra-judicial killing of them on-site for criminal acts (smuggling drugs) without any due process is nothing short of murder.

And I’m not even worried about drug smugglers, per se. I worry about the precedent these legal opinions set.

What’s to keep democrats in 2050 from declaring MAGA “domestic terrorists” subject to targeting?
Posted by tilthatday
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:02 pm to
"They died of natural causes. Causes natural to the line of work they were in."

Sheriff Ed Tom Bell
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25849 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:10 pm to
Their bosses are labeled terrorists working for said terrorists makes you guilty by association therefore a valid target. Think every enemy kill in the Middle East was wearing a uniform?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
18086 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:16 pm to
Of course muslims could count on another muslim to remove enhanced interrogation techniques against muslim terrorists.
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
2779 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:33 pm to
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Their bosses are labeled terrorists working for said terrorists makes you guilty by association therefore a valid target. Think every enemy kill in the Middle East was wearing a uniform?
I’m sorry I have no idea what you’re saying here.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31802 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:56 pm to
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Why are DoJ Legal Opinions Justifying Lethal Force Against Venezuelan Civilians a Secret?


Double Super Top Secret legal reasoning, I’m sure
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74463 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:02 pm to
Just because I don't let it out that a couple of posters here are just rambling idiots doesn't mean its a secret.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:07 pm to
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For the sake of argument, let’s assume everything you said here is accurate.


yet you're not understanding what rights do you think these people have? "the rights of international citizens of the world n such. under maritime law they're not even afforded the rights we would ordinarily give them as a citizen of there home country.


This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 3:13 pm
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