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Posted on 4/25/25 at 2:43 pm to texag7
Have you read article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli?
Gonna go with a unanimous Senate vote from first generation Revolutionaries and impossible to misinterpret language over Charlie Kirk.
But you do you. Either way the law has been settled and it's not.
Gonna go with a unanimous Senate vote from first generation Revolutionaries and impossible to misinterpret language over Charlie Kirk.
But you do you. Either way the law has been settled and it's not.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 2:47 pm to theballguy
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Trump is definitely not a Christian. Just tells everyone he is. His god is mostly money.
Personally, I don't care as long as he gets the job done.
His religion honestly, is none of my business.
Not sure why this is getting downvoted.
Trump is a politician. Ignoring his policy, he is going to say what needs to be said to get elected.
You can grunt in disbelief when people say Trump isn't a Christian even though you really want him to be, but he hugged and kissed an LGBTQ flag on national TV a few years ago.
How some of you function despite holding fundamentally opposing views within the same tiny brain is astonishing to watch.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 3:17 pm to texag7
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Founders were most worried about one single religion taking over government such as the Quakers, etc.
The Founding Fathers were more concerned about keeping the Quakers cooled out than they were the Catholics? Where do some people get this shite?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 3:30 pm to Wellborn
The left? I think you meant Donnie
Posted on 4/25/25 at 4:53 pm to texag7
Posted on 4/25/25 at 4:57 pm to redneck hippie
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The Constitution leaves out the words God, Jesus or Christianity. This was intentional. Madison was pressured by religious leaders at the time to specifically include Jesus and Christianity in the Constitution. It’s hard to imagine now, but Madison leaving religion out of the Constitution was considered radical at the time.
It leaves out some other people as well. If you want to go 1st continental Congress let’s party.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 5:46 pm to theballguy
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Christianity in the western sense is slowly shrinking.
Trump sure seems intent on deporting an awful lot of Christians.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 5:49 pm to Oneforthemoney
Siri, what is grasping at straws?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 5:54 pm to texag7
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The separation of Church and State was not in the Constitution. Founders were most worried about one single religion taking over government such as the Quakers, etc.
Yup. For most of my life, I was bamboozled into thinking that the anti-Establishment Clause prohibited Governmental expressions of Christianity.
After researching it more thoroughly, I'm convinced it's a prohibition just of sectarianism.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:05 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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the anti-Establishment Clause prohibited FEDERAL Governmental expressions of Christianity.
Connecticut had an official state religion until 1818. Massachusetts had an official state religion until 1833. Interpretations of the 1st Amendment at the time allowed for state legislatures to make laws respecting establishments of religion.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...
Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:30 pm to texag7
America was NOT founded as a Christian nation (as much as I used to believe was the case and made the exact same claim.) There are several false "Christian" quote attribution (ex: G. Washington. He was a Deist and famous Freemason)
As mentioned here -- The Bible was touted as a moral and educational instrument, up till the time attendance at "Public Schools" were mandated -- becoming primarily a secular 'education."
Also already mentioned here:
The Founders were comprised of some actual "Christians"; One Roman Catholic (a very powerful one at that.)
Many Deists.
Agnostics.
MANY Freemasons.
A few Illuminati (like Ben Franklin.)
If a Founder didn't mention "Jesus Christ" they weren't a Christian. Neither the USCON or Bill of Rights mentioned JC either. Many believe the "God" mentioned on US currency as elsewhere along with "Providence" are NOT paying homage to the Christian God or Jesus Christ, but something else.
Sadly:
As mentioned here -- The Bible was touted as a moral and educational instrument, up till the time attendance at "Public Schools" were mandated -- becoming primarily a secular 'education."
Also already mentioned here:
The Founders were comprised of some actual "Christians"; One Roman Catholic (a very powerful one at that.)
Many Deists.
Agnostics.
MANY Freemasons.
A few Illuminati (like Ben Franklin.)
If a Founder didn't mention "Jesus Christ" they weren't a Christian. Neither the USCON or Bill of Rights mentioned JC either. Many believe the "God" mentioned on US currency as elsewhere along with "Providence" are NOT paying homage to the Christian God or Jesus Christ, but something else.
Sadly:
Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:34 pm to texag7
Blasphemous. Shameful
Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:39 pm to the808bass
quote:The Philosophy of Jesus Christ is flawless. Very hard to live by, but daily wrestling with His teachings, will certainly make you a better person.
Shrinking isn’t dying. I wouldn’t be surprised if the pendulum swung back a little towards Christianity, as well. Materialism is a shite explanation for life and living. Some people are figuring that out.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:50 pm to TigerDoc
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Why did the constitution then do away with the required declarations of faith?
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they The Founders] wanted the next 250 years here to be less conflictual and bloody than the 250 years prior in Europe between Catholics and Protestants and lo and behold it has.
That's a plausible explanation but you're forgetting that the Holy Roman Empire (Roman Catholic Church and Jesuits) subjugated most of Europe along with their Kings for about 1500 years. The RCC needed to reel Luther and his "Protestant rebels" back into the fold but failed. THAT created the original European bloody wars.
If anything, the more Protestant-based Founders should have feared RCC political interference in American affair (which they did.)
The truth of the matter is more controversial. For the London Bankers and Freemasons to control the "new nation", Protestant-Christian political influence needed to be nipped in the bud right from the get-go.
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Religious toleration serves us well.
Sort of.
Just as long as one isn't Christian. White. Conservative. Or Male in the 21st Century.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:51 pm to Harry Boutte
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Trump sure seems intent on deporting an awful lot of Christians.
You mean the "newcomers"?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:54 pm to EphesianArmor
There's a reason the Catholic Church is complicit in their coming to America.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:08 pm to Harry Boutte
Yep.
We've had these subversive NGOs using the RCC name backed by Jewish $$$ stabbing us in the back at will with impunity.
We've had these subversive NGOs using the RCC name backed by Jewish $$$ stabbing us in the back at will with impunity.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:15 pm to texag7
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- The separation of Church and State was not in the Constitution. Founders were most worried about one single religion taking over government such as the Quakers, etc.
One of the triggers was the Congregationalists of Massachusetts declaring themselves to be the state religion and taxing other denominations to build Congregationalist churches.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:08 pm to BarberitosDawg
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Antifas BLM Trannies Social democrats
Lot of overlap between these groups and the Jews.
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