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re: Who’s going to build IPhones here?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:50 pm to Diego Ricardo
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:50 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Well, I’d say that is less of the problem. More so thay we tell kids to go to college and too many get degrees in things with low economic utility. We also have a very insufficient trade school setup and we do little in the K12 schools to suggest such a track as equal or superior in some cases to going into the collegiate system.
I don’t disagree with any of that. But you’re completely underestimating the number of young people in this country who want nothing to do with a job. They don’t respect themselves much less anyone else.
Young people who could learn a trade and be successful personally while also being great contributors to society, so many simply have no desire to do so, and they have no one driving them to do so because the parents, grandparents, etc were raised the same way.
I’m not sure where you live to not see it but this problem is all over this country, I find it hard to believe anyone paying attention can’t see it. And it’s all being enabled by our government with our tax money. That’s just a fact
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Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:52 pm to 14&Counting
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Brazil mandated iPhones be made in Brazil and they cost nearly twice as much as US iPhones
Just wait till you see what labor unions do to it here.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:53 pm to NineLineBind
Bingo.....
People need to stop worrying, DJT has this in the bag.
People need to stop worrying, DJT has this in the bag.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:27 pm to Rekrul
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I don’t disagree with any of that. But you’re completely underestimating the number of young people in this country who want nothing to do with a job. They don’t respect themselves much less anyone else.
I think those types of people are going to be wastoids even if good paying jobs were something you could fall into arse-backwards.
Those type of people are never going to get their shite together even if every social safety net in the country was burned to the ground. Many of them are physically able but have some sort of psychological issue. For example, my sister has never been able to find stability in her life. She's got some mental health problem I'm not qualified to diagnose but she has a knack for blowing up whatever good thing she has going for her. She'll find a job but sure as shite when things look promising she'll blow it up. Not trying to make a pity point, just speaking from experience that a lot of these people who flow in and out of public assistance are like this and opportunities aren't going to fix that shite.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:27 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Many of them are physically able but have some sort of psychological issue
Correct. Many do, but most don’t
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Not trying to make a pity point, just speaking from experience that a lot of these people who flow in and out of public assistance are like this and opportunities aren't going to fix that shite
I have no problem helping people like this who legitimately need it. But you cannot tell me that 80-90% of an entire family going back three generations falls under this. That is simply not mathematically possible, but that’s exactly what is going on all over this country.
Help the people who legitimately need it and the rest can sink or swim, the vast majority receiving government assistance will fall under the latter because over time it’s become almost impossible to not abuse that system if you try. It’s so very easy and 10’s of millions of people have been doing it for a very long time
Posted on 5/24/25 at 12:06 am to Rekrul
I really don't know how much abuse is going on. There are things that aren't really abuse or fraud that are dubious to common sensibilities then there are the things that are outright abuse and fraud.
I know both are happening. I care more about the clear and obvious fraud. However, there definitely are some scenarios that are on the up-and-up by the law that seem exploitable. Feel like attacking that comes down to whether rooting out those freeloaders ends up hurting people who were using the system but in the way it was intended. I just don't have the knowledge to answer those questions. Everyone should want public assistance to have maximum benefit to those who need it and minimum exploitation by those who don't.
I know both are happening. I care more about the clear and obvious fraud. However, there definitely are some scenarios that are on the up-and-up by the law that seem exploitable. Feel like attacking that comes down to whether rooting out those freeloaders ends up hurting people who were using the system but in the way it was intended. I just don't have the knowledge to answer those questions. Everyone should want public assistance to have maximum benefit to those who need it and minimum exploitation by those who don't.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 12:12 am to TideSaint
quote:gross
Buy a Samsung.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 12:52 am to Robcrzy
i don't believe that Americans are as lazy as you think. just cut off the free benefits or pay them a wage that is actually worth getting out of bed for.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 12:54 am to Robcrzy
Then asia will win in spite of the tariff.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 2:57 am to Robcrzy
Little kids ? You have to have little hands
Posted on 5/24/25 at 3:01 am to Robcrzy
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Who’s going to build IPhones here?
The robotic equipment, that's who. The smart baw will
be working on that equipment in design, maintenance, parts support, or sales.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 3:04 am to Victor R Franko
AI and robots will take 90% of the people on here’s job, including much of mine.
Tell me your job that can’t be done by AI. Doctors, engineers lawyers cops builders oil workers etc can all be replaced within 10 years easily.
Tell me your job that can’t be done by AI. Doctors, engineers lawyers cops builders oil workers etc can all be replaced within 10 years easily.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:10 am to TutHillTiger
If robots are going to be doing most of the work thus only needing a small team of skilled laborers and engineers to maintain them, then what precisely is the point to reshore industries that offshored or never materialized here over the last half century? The only thing I can think of is preparing the US war machine to be a fully self-sustaining operation in the event of total war. If that is the goal for the tariffs then I think I am against it. A deeply interconnected global economy would seem to discourage direct great power conflict. That is a good thing for everybody. Seems like the end game of this stuff is to just send our poors to get killed off on some god-forsaken sand bar in the South Pacific.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 11:25 am
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:30 am to Gifman
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A robot will build your iPhone quite soon
Robots are already building our phones. Do y’all really think some 10 year old with a soldering iron put it together?
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:44 am to Robcrzy
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Who’s going to build IPhones here?
I see what Donald Trump is trying to do. Let's see if Apple can rise to the occasion.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:50 am to cajuntiger1010
no there aren’t. if there was there’d be jobs! That’s how the market works
Posted on 5/24/25 at 11:38 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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I see what Donald Trump is trying to do. Let's see if Apple can rise to the occasion.
On an average day, Apple sells 150,000 iPhones worldwide. At the launch of their yearly refresh, they sell millions worldwide daily for weeks or months. There simply is not enough capacity from building the industrial campuses for all the intermediary to final production manufacturing to staffing all those component to finishing manufacturing facilities in the United States to build all of their phones in the United States. Certainly not on any timeline Trump WH seems to imagine it happening. At best they could - one day in the distant future - build their phones for the US market in the US.
I think what is going on here is a bit of marketing by the Trump WH ahead of an announcement at Apple yearly developers conference in June that the admin has advance knowledge of its content. Apple makes one Mac here in the United States and it is their most expensive, low production run desktop computer. I suspect that Apple is preparing to do something similar with the iPhone. There have been rumors for the last year or so that Apple is working on a new 2000 dollar "iPhone Air" that will be a radical form factor departure from their current line up. I believe Apple is going to briefly announce the intention to build an iPhone in the upcoming 2025-2026 lineup exclusively in the United States and it will be this 2k iPhone they announce in September.
Trump's press team and online water carriers will laud this as them bending Apple to their will but it was likely something they were planning for some time or something they pivoted to that isn't particularly gamechanging for employment opportunities in the United States but reads well for those who want good news about their trade war.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/24/25 at 12:04 pm to Robcrzy
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While that may be true iPhone is still 58 percent of the market and trump is crazy to think they can actually be manufactured here. America is lazy and entitled it can never work kids now days think they can just be an influencer and not work in 10 years we are going to be in trouble nobody wants to be electricians, plumbers, or any kind of laborer.
So, we're in trouble because everyone wants to be on their smartphones and not be a laborer and you're bitching about a plan to create more labor jobs at the expense of raising the cost of smartphones?
Posted on 5/24/25 at 12:10 pm to Robcrzy
If they paid enough I would. Which is the free markets way of raising wages
Posted on 5/24/25 at 1:49 pm to TigerIron
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So, we're in trouble because everyone wants to be on their smartphones and not be a laborer and you're bitching about a plan to create more labor jobs at the expense of raising the cost of smartphones?
We got a lot of history to show that people’s purchasing decisions are usually not very high minded. Folks are motivated by quality and value. If the product or service doesn’t have at least one, and ideally both, then people dont buy it. Made in the USA marketing doesn’t seem to move the meter much unless it has those two essentials too. I dont buy 990s because they’re made in the USA, I buy them because they’re the best casual wear sneaker.
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