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re: Who is praising Putin?

Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:09 am to
Posted by WeaponX
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:09 am to
heres a 6 page thread on this board with 55 upvotes

I like Putin.

I think he is a decent guy and he is certainly Smarter and more truthful than leadership over here.
Fact is. Putin is all class compared to the garage that runs this country.


heres trump

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:11 am to
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There are people on this site praising Putin all the time. "He's a leader who only cares about Russia and the Russian people" and similar nonsense.


It’s all in your head

Being indifferent to his actions because the Europeans don’t seem to care either is not praise
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86131 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:12 am to
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It’s all in your head

Being indifferent to his actions because the Europeans don’t seem to care either is not praise



Did you go to leftist gaslighting school

"That thing you just showed me is not real"
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:13 am to
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heres a 6 page thread on this board with 55 upvotes


Ok if Putin is such a bad guy and literally hitler invading other countries why are we continuing to buy oil from him when just a few years ago we proved we could be energy independent?

Why did Germany agree to buy almost all of the energy supplies from Putin when we all know their entire economy is based on oil and gas?

What’s worse, praising someone or empowering them by making them rich?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125749 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:13 am to
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ShinerHorns is one of those fricking losers.


Shiner isn’t a real person.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17002 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:13 am to
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No one is praising Putin



Exactly.

When I point out how much more competent Putin is than Biden its not meant to praise Putin, it's meant to show how much I loathe Biden.

Besides, a fricking turnip is more competent than Biden so saying Putin is more so isn't exactly praiseworthy
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86131 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:15 am to
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What’s worse, praising someone or empowering them by making them rich?



In which OP concedes the point and moves on to something else
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:15 am to
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When I point out how much more competent Putin is than Biden its not meant to praise Putin, it's meant to show how much I loathe Biden.


This is what they don’t understand.

Any positive statements about Putin are more of an indictment on the state of our country, and a way to put our fall from grace in perspective.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125749 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:16 am to
You can find support for any position on almost any internet board. This isn’t news. And it’s not a signal of some sort of monolithic (or even a plurality) support for Putin.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125749 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:17 am to
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In which OP concedes the point and moves on to something else


The larger point is still true. There’s no groundswell of support for Putin among Trump supporters.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:17 am to
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Ok if Putin is such a bad guy and literally hitler invading other countries why are we continuing to buy oil from him when just a few years ago we proved we could be energy independent? Why did Germany agree to buy almost all of the energy supplies from Putin when we all know their entire economy is based on oil and gas?


That’s not a moral argument. It’s an argument about last resorts. If there were some other way of buying and transporting natural gas that were cheaper than pipelines, then Europeans would buy that. There are several gas projects underway in the Eastern Med with some issues arising between Turkey, Greece, Israel, and Egypt about who gets access. There is gas infrastructure already in Turkey to transport gas from the ME, but that situation won’t be resolved because of sanctions on Iran.

We could use this opportunity to try to break the Iran-Russia axis by decreasing sanctions on Iran so they could fill their gas capacity, but our FP apparatus won’t do that.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179802 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:17 am to
There may be a few that "praise" him depending on your definition of it but it is not nearly as widespread as liberals are screaming it is. It's probably a small group of people.

Ironically, the socialist movement in America is found largely amongst far-left liberals and Putin is the very definition of how all dictatorships and socialism wind up now they are against it.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:17 am to
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In which OP concedes the point and moves on to something else


I didn’t concede the point. I asked which is worse.

Because you seem to be all hot and bothered by random message board comments about Putin rather than your president and Europe making us dependent on Russian energy which is literally bankrolling their entire operation to re establish the USSR.

The house is on fire and you are complaining about a toilet leak
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 9:18 am
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:18 am to
Putin is a murderer. That is a fact. But let's be honest here. The Russian aggression in the Ukraine is directly tied to Putin's fear that Ukraine would be sucked into NATO. And Putin will NOT risk that.....a NATO country on Russia's western border.

Having said that, the images coming out of the Ukraine are gutwrenching.

Pray for the Ukranian People. Pray for the dead, dying, and terrified children of the Ukraine.

I would have no problem welcoming Ukranian refugees here in America. If it comes to that.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 9:23 am
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
11094 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:19 am to
Thanks for clearing that up. It was not clear whether Putin’s war on Ukraine was being supported, especially with all the Putin praise on this board.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86131 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:19 am to
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The larger point is still true. There’s no groundswell of support for Putin among Trump supporters.



OP is objectively false

The reality is that a lot of Trump supporters cannot bring themselves to view an enemy of this administration as also bad. They lack the ability to bring nuance to that position. They lack the ability to discern that an authoritarian and all around bad guy who happens to play to their sensibilities is actually manipulating the shite out of them. I genuinely think we have posters who feel Putin would like them because they too dislike the trans nonsense and are ardent nationalists.

Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4534 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:20 am to
Americans who praise Putin will be sent to the gulag. It is a dog whistle for white supremacy. And do you know who likes dogs? That's right, Donald Trump.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:20 am to
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If there were some other way of buying and transporting natural gas that were cheaper than pipelines, then Europeans would buy that.


Right, so they care about Ukraine up until the point it effects their pocketbooks. That’s my point. That’s why I don’t want to hear about how Putin is literally hitler.

How did Germany survive before pipelines? They, like us, are fully woke on climate change and this is their own decision to become dependent on Russian natural gas.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27636 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:20 am to
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No one is praising Putin.

This is what gaslighting is, right here.

There has been so much praise of Putin in posts and comments on this board, even right wing posters are calling it out.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11530 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:21 am to
That's part of it. They also know that Trump trusts Putin and Trump favors a lot of Putin's interests (weakening NATO). They like that Putin tried to get Trump elected and will again.
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