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re: Whites have an unfair advantage. BIPOC communities can’t get ahead.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:50 am to CAPEX
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:50 am to CAPEX
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CAPEX
I am struggling to find what you are arguing for/against.
The notion that whites built society around the world to benefit them is the starting point.
My graph shows that whites are not at the top based on Median household income.
If BIPOC (a term i used since they like throwing any possible hue that isn't white into a group) are supposedly disadvantaged, then how are so many succeeding when supposedly the system is rigged for white people?
I am highlighting the fact that "white supremacy" is a stupid term. It's "hard work" supremacy and Asian's accel at it. Grouping 90% (or whatever the actual number is) together against white people saying whites have an advantage over that group is asinine.
Yes Asians get discriminated against with college admissions. Any logical person is against that. Yet while being up against that, the system in place still lets that group thrive because of their work ethic.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 11:51 am
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:51 am to CAPEX
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One can have a disadvantage and still succeed in America.
Look at how quickly outcome was uncoupled from opportunity.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:56 am to KAGTASTIC
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We are seeing a lot of payback from around the world for our ancestors civilizing it...by any means necessary.
This pretty much captures it. It’s not about equality or equity or whatever they come up with tomorrow.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:57 am to flyAU
How is household defined here? What role in these numbers does the fact that all those at the top live in multi generational households (more often than whites) play in these numbers?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:58 am to GeauxTigerTM
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You seem to be arguing with yourself here. I'm pretty sure no one here thinks anyone ought to be rewarded or penalized due to their skin color. Likewise, no one is arguing that Asians seem to be penalized the most.
Exactly. The point is this should have been done away with years ago. Supreme Court said it should have been removed and left it in place anyway.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:59 am to roadGator
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Crazy to keep voting with your progressives loon friends then.
Lol, what?
Affirmative action isn't a policy priority for me considering I'm not in college nor am I applying for college.
It's going to be over any way when the supreme court rules against it.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:01 pm to Wildcat1996
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Look at how quickly outcome was uncoupled from opportunity.
I'm fairly consistent here.
I believe in equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome. White Americans are disproportionately farmers but I don't think that's racism either, I think every racial group has equal opportunity to become a farmer but they choose not to do so.
So I'm not sure what your point is exactly because I've not contradicted myself.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:03 pm to flyAU
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I am struggling to find what you are arguing for/against.
Because he's being dishonest and using a billion words dancing around his true thoughts.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:05 pm to CAPEX
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think every racial group has equal opportunity to become a farmer but they choose not to do so.
Given incentives for minority farmers, this doesn’t appear to be true. Whites have less opportunity to do so
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:06 pm to flyAU
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If BIPOC (a term i used since they like throwing any possible hue that isn't white into a group) are supposedly disadvantaged, then how are so many succeeding when supposedly the system is rigged for white people?
A system can be rigged for white people and non-white people can still succeed.
I'm confused how the two are contradictory concepts.
But I'll start:
Asian-Americans in the US are disproportionately selected for in the immigration process. According to Pew, 70% of Asian immigrants in the US come from college-educated backgrounds abroad.
The average Indian isn't immigrating, it's college-educated Indians that are immigrating to the US and then having kids that are successful.
The average Asian isn't immigrating, it's disproportionately high-skilled Asians who are immigrating to the US.
When you control for education, the gap actually reverses. White college-educated Americans earn more than Asian college-educated Americans.
And the last example of college admissions is blatant systematic racism against Asians so it defeats your own point that disadvantage doesn't exist in America.
I'm saying different groups in America face disadvantage. The idea that because Asian-Americans have been successful in the US suggests that racism against them doesn't exist is an absurd point to make.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:08 pm to CAPEX
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One can have a disadvantage and still succeed in America.
And you can give the disadvantaged EVERY possible benefit to help them succeed and a lot will choose not to take advantage of it.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:08 pm to CAPEX
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CAPEX
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:08 pm to Dawgfanman
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Given incentives for minority farmers, this doesn’t appear to be true. Whites have less opportunity to do so
Not quite considering that whites are actually much more likely to inherit farmland in the first place AND land was disproportionately offered to white Americans in the 19th and 20th century, hence whites do not have less opportunity to do so.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Because he's being dishonest and using a billion words dancing around his true thoughts.
Where exactly am I being dishonest?
I've been clear with my opinion that racism still exists in the US and systematic racism still exists in various forms against different groups that manifests in different ways.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:11 pm to DMAN1968
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And you can give the disadvantaged EVERY possible benefit to help them succeed and a lot will choose not to take advantage of it.
Yes, but how does that disagree with my point?
Yes, many will not take advantage of it. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:11 pm to CAPEX
quote:I bet if you asked whites whether faced racism or were disadvantaged
I bet if you asked those groups whether they faced racism in the US or were disadvantaged
THEY'D SAY YES TOO
happening every day
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:12 pm to CAPEX
You said you will keep voting Democrat. Democrats are responsible for AA.
Keep voting with crazy.
Is abortion your love with dem policy?
Keep voting with crazy.
Is abortion your love with dem policy?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:13 pm to CAPEX
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it defeats your own point that disadvantage doesn't exist in America.
Where did I state there was no disadvantage in America? I am saying those with a hard work ethic thrive in this environment. Every person has their own advantages and disadvantages. The "system" is not made to lift up those based on skin color, its built to let anyone succeed with a hard work ethic.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:14 pm to flyAU
I wonder if you pulled out Elon Musk's number how much lower African-Americans' number would fall?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:14 pm to flyAU
Two hours ago I had to stop due to a power pole being repaired.
The electric company had 4 guys and a big truck with a bucket crane.
The 2 white guys were working the crane with one high up and the other at a control panel. The 2 black guys were holding signs 'slow' and 'stop' at opposite ends of the street.
Now why do you think the black guys weren't hired as the technicians? It's obviously racism.
The electric company had 4 guys and a big truck with a bucket crane.
The 2 white guys were working the crane with one high up and the other at a control panel. The 2 black guys were holding signs 'slow' and 'stop' at opposite ends of the street.
Now why do you think the black guys weren't hired as the technicians? It's obviously racism.
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